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Constitution Politics

Making An Idol Of The Constitution

Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky, a Constitutional bull dog, is going after the Obama administration and its nomination of Judge David Barron to the U.S. 1st Circuit Court of Appeals.  To which I hope he is successful in denying.  The last thing we need is another liberal on the court.

In 2013, Paul filibustered the nomination of CIA Director John Brennan on basically the same point he is using here against Judge Barron.  What Paul wants to know is if the administration and Judge Barron believes we (Americans) still have a Fifth Amendment right to due process — as written in our United States Constitution.

Now I must admit I nearly always agree with Paul and I love his passion to root out anyone who would not hold the Constitution up as our most precious legal document, but I simply can’t agree with his assessment of why he is doing what he is doing this time.

The issue at hand is whether or not U. S. citizens have a right to due process before being blown to smithereens on the field of war by a drone or other tool of military combat.  I say of course not!

Rarely do we see conservatives or libertarians playing the where’s the Constitution Waldo game when it comes to war, defending the innocent, defending America’s interests or defending liberty itself.

obama-drone-cold-killer-cowboyIn my humble opinion, the first people who should be killed during war are those American traitors who joined with the enemy (such as with Muslim jihadists) in an effort to kill Americans or incite others to kill there former countrymen.  Due process?  The drone strike or Tomahawk missile is the process by which they get their due.  I have no time for distinctions between nationalities of those on the battle field.  An enemy is an enemy!  Our job is to kill the enemy not ask them for identification and proof of insurance.

I have no issue whatsoever with a drone strike killing radical Yemeni cleric Anwar al-Awlaki or Islamic extremist Samir Khan, whether or not they were American citizens, whether or not they are eating Cheerios and playing cards in a mountain cave hide out or firing RPGs at U.S. troops.

But perhaps we can put at ease the minds of Paul and others (who worship the Constitution like a “golden calf”) by simply having a quick hearing and revoke their citizenship.  If a court or panel agrees that the actions and motives of the “traitor” are sufficient, then we simply go ahead and make sure the appointment is kept for them to meet their maker.  Fuel up that drone and send her on her way.  Lady liberty has her eye on the cross-hair and her finger on the trigger.

Of course, surrender, and we will give you due process.  Get captured, and we will give you due process.  Commit to fighting on the battle field of war — where ever that might be — and you will likely die in vain.

Removing barbarians who aim us harm will always be the right thing to do, no matter where they were born and no matter where they received their passport.

May the bombs land lightly upon your head, and may posterity forget that you, detestable traitor, were ever our countrymen.

The views expressed in this opinion article are solely those of their author and are not necessarily either shared or endorsed by EagleRising.com


About the author

David Whitley

David is a deacon at his local church and a perpetual student of religion, politics and American history. Author, speaker, blogger, David lives in Southern California with his wife and their three children. You can follow him on Twitter @cogitarus or online at cogitarus.wordpress.com. He's available for speaking engagements upon request.

  • Onan Coca

    I understand the concern David – but I wonder where we draw the line? How can we demand faithfulness to the Constitution from liberals while fudging that line for things we might not necessarily agree with?

    • http://cogitarus.wordpress.com/ ★✩★ David ★✩★

      This is certainly a controversial issue, but I fail to see where it has anything to do with citizenship or the Constitution or the 5th Amendment, and everything to do with common sense. Would we, should we, would anyone have treated Osama Bin Laden any differently had he been an American? I certainly hope not. War is a unique and special circumstance that excludes those on the other side — attempting to destroy the very liberty the Constitution imbues — from it’s protective powers.

      We know an American citizen has become an enemy combatant and is engaged in killing fellow Americans — planning the killing of Americans — training others to kill Americans and we are supposed to put other Americans in harms way to make sure he gets his day in court? I simply can’t wrap my mind around that. A drone is the perfect tool.

      Any threat to America, her liberty, her people, her land — sees no distinction in the colors of the enemy. Due process and the 5th Amendment shouldn’t be any more of a consideration for a traitor American enemy combatant — than reading a robber his Miranda rights while he is shooting at you. Your job is to neutralize the threat — up to and including death. A domestic terrorist driving a car bomb into the city to kill innocent people is no better than a Saudi Muslim flying a plane into a building in New York? Neither deserve any Constitutional protections until after they are apprehended — at that point I agree. But if you play on the battlefield of war — no military personnel should have to check for ID before pulling the trigger, including the one on a drone.

      • TerryE

        Well stated!! You apparently, like myself have served & thank you!!

    • southern tom

      …THE MOMENT they attempt to overthrow our government, the “line” has been crossed, and we then have every right ~ obligation ~ to respond accordingly, and with force if necessary…

      …THAT LINE has been crossed.

      • seeymour kleerly

        Turn off Conservative Media and enjoy life!

  • Cicero

    So, by your way of thinking, the US government can declare a US citizen an enemy combatant without any judicial review. Is that correct? The way this administration works you can eventually expect they will declare veterans within the borders of the US as enemy combatants. They have already called veterans organizations terrorists along with conservative groups and others with whom they disagree. How does that saying go: They came for the Jews and I didn’t object, they came for the ………

    • http://cogitarus.wordpress.com/ ★✩★ David ★✩★

      “the US government can declare a US citizen an enemy combatant without any judicial review. Is that correct?” NO! Absolutely not! I’m with you 100% on that point. That is NOT the point of the article nor the point I made below. To come to that conclusion is to use faulty logic and to put words into my mouth.

  • http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/ Ted R. Weiland

    David Whitley: “…[Rand] Paul and others (who worship the Constitution like a “golden calf”

    Many more people [ironically, led by conservative Christians] worship the Constitution than Rand and his father. See “Could You Be a Disciple of Baal and Not Know It?” at http://www.constitutionmythbusters.org/could-you-be-a-disciple-of-baal-and-not-know-it/.

    • southern tom

      …THE CONSTITUTION is a legally binding contract… too many Americans have died to uphold that contract, for a few malcontents to trash it and those who defend it… SEEMS to me, that when someone belittles the Constitution, they should immediately be deported, because they don’t deserve to be here…

      • http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/ Ted R. Weiland

        Does the same hold true Hitler’s Germany’s Constitution? The point being, the number of lives given defending it, doesn’t make it a godly document.

        • asmith1234

          Ted, your comment is nothing more than a straw man argument. Here’s the fact, our Constitution IS the Law of the Land. Whether you think it’s a godly contract, or, not, is not the issue. It is the contract in which our government was formed and the chains that are suppose to bind our government. Our politicians swear an oath to uphold that Constitution. May I suggest, if you don’t like our Constitution, find another country to adopt where you find their form of government more pleasing to you.

          • http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/ Ted R. Weiland

            Following your argument to it’s logical conclusion, the patriots who, prior to 1776, who pointed out the British government’s failings with whom THEY had contracted, should have moved somewhere else as well.

          • asmith1234

            May I suggest you read the Declaration of Independence, slowly and carefully.

          • http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/ Ted R. Weiland

            May I suggest you do the same with the Constitution, with a Bible in hand to examine each of it’s phrases.

          • southern tom

            …GOOD POINT… following that same logic, we see that a segment of our society is unhappy living under the rule of law as outlined in the Constitution… this segment of society (I’m not including the welfare class, because they’ll vote for whoever signs the monthly check) is attempting to overthrow our government ~ a bloodless coup ~ then, just like with the British, we have every right to round-up this segment of society and punish them…

      • asmith1234

        Thank you, Southern Tom! Yes, it is a legally binding contract. No different than any other contract. To equate ‘worship’ with wanting to force our government back under the chains of that contract, is the same position as that of a lawbreaker. Also, same position as the communists that have infiltrated this country.

  • pearl87 ✓ᴰᵉᵖˡᵒʳᵃᵇˡᵉ

    I usually agree with this author, but I find his argument unpersuasive and dangerous. Anyone should see by now, that if all the govt has to do is strip you of your citizenship, by fiat, declare you an enemy combatant, and summarily kill you, this administration is ready and willing to do this to any conservative American alive today. This issue is NOT about worshiping the Constitution, by any means. It is about the proper limits of govt and the means by which our rights are secured. By this Whitely’s standard, Magna Carta might also be an idol, and human rights are all to be subject to the whim of tyrants.
    Shame and scorn on David Whitely for this cowardly endorsement of unfettered govt power.

    • TerryE

      Bull$hit!!! Any US citizen whom commits an overt & obvious act of treason on the soil of an enemy must be taken out as soon as is possible! Take, for instance a soldier commits an act of cowardice or treason on the battlefield should be summarily executed on the spot. Apparently you have never served in our military or you wouldn’t have such an idiotic position. One whom has never walked in the boots of a soldier hasn’t the foggiest of what realities these fine young men & women face. Me? US Army, 7 Mar ’55 – 26 Apr ’64……

      • asmith1234

        TerryE, do you consider any of the following, ‘terrorists’ – Pro life people, pro 2nd Amendment people, Constitutionalists, 10th Amendment people, or anyone that speaks out against the unconstitutional federal takeover of our country?

        If you say, no, then your position is contrary to the government’s position. Please see my post above.

        • http://cogitarus.wordpress.com/ ★✩★ David ★✩★

          asmith1234, No I don’t consider those groups ‘terrorists” I consider each and every one patriotic and vital to our nations future. We agree 100%! And nothing here is in conflict with the article above.

    • http://cogitarus.wordpress.com/ ★✩★ David ★✩★

      To use “American Citizenship” as a shield on the battlefield is no better than hiding behind women and children in a school yard while lobbing bombs on your opponent. The difference is “children” are “innocent” — an American who has switch allegiances has given up ALL his rights and on the battlefield that includes his life. NO one is talking about the tyrant Obama declaring a returning veteran an enemy combatant — to equate the two is to render “clear thinking” mute. We are talking drones and war and battlefields. Not the government declaring the “Tea Party” enemies of the State. Apples and Carrots, I won’t even say oranges because they aren’t even that close in type.

      • asmith1234

        David, you’re either incredibly naive, or, willfully ignorant of current news. You wrote:

        “NO one is talking about the tyrant Obama declaring a returning veteran an enemy combatant”

        Oh really, try telling that to the various government officials that wrote the MIAC Report, news media, along with various politicians that are spouting off about ‘homegrown terrorists’. Since you refuse to believe the obvious, how about taking a look at this bill where it states it in clear language:

        https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/110/hr1955/text
        Here’s a portion of the text from this bill: (in more recent news think about the BLM’s outright theft of land across the western states and the people that stand against it.. must not also forget Reid’s outright statement that people that would stand against the feds were ‘terrorists’)

        “(3) Homegrown terrorism

        The term homegrown terrorism means the use, planned use, or threatened use, of force or violence by a group or individual born, raised, or based and operating primarily within the United States or any possession of the United States to intimidate or coerce the United States government, the civilian population of the United States, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.”

        Under 899B. Findings

        “(3)
        The Internet has aided in facilitating violent radicalization, ideologically based violence, and the homegrown terrorism process in the United States by providing access to broad and constant streams of terrorist-related propaganda to United States citizens. (4)

        While the United States must continue its vigilant efforts to combat international terrorism, it must also strengthen efforts to combat the threat posed by homegrown terrorists based and operating within the United States.”

        Here’s a newsflash for you, David… our government is NOT targeting international terrorism, they’re targeting us whether you want to believe it or not.

        • http://cogitarus.wordpress.com/ ★✩★ David ★✩★

          Hello? “No one is talking about the tyrant Obama declaring a returning veteran an enemy combatant” was in reference to the article and the news item in question regarding Rand Paul. Bad choice of words perhaps. I was not saying no one at all ever is talking about labeling conservative groups “terrorists.” For heaven sake, I called Obama a tyrant in the same sentence you take exception with. Are you saying Obama is not a tyrant? Of course your not. And I’m not saying no one, any where, ever, is calling patriots “terrorists.” I find the suggestion that pro-lifers, Constitutionalists, free market and small limited government advocates, returning veterans, the Tea Party, local militia’s, and the Cliven Bundys of the world as terrorists or potential terrorists the most vile thing our government or a politician can do. The article and my comments had zero to do with those questions. Assumptions are being made that there is no evidence for — no one here has pointed to anything in the article — only things outside the article that were never part of the narrative. Emotions are simply running away with people. I’m neither naive or ignorant that is why I’m here talking about it. FYI I’ve been fighting the BLM since opposing, exposing and writing about the California Desert Protection Act way back in the early 1990’s. And for heaven’s sake I made no reference ever to the fed’s labeling any group “homegrown terrorists” or enemies of the state. My only reference, in fact my only real point was that on the battlefield (on the battlefield, did you hear that on the battlefield) we don’t check ID and to say we should is not only ignorant and naive, it’s pathetic.

  • iheartdagny

    Who gets to decide to drone-strike an American citizen? This is EXACTLY what due process is all about. Otherwise, we live under a dictatorship. No exceptions.

    • southern tom

      …I’M THINKIN’ the “go, no go” decision is 0’s~ definitely SHOULDN’T be anyone else’s… it’s been reported that he has a ‘kill list’…

  • Vetus_Leo

    It has always been my assertion that once an American citizen declares allegiance to a terrorist group and advocates the killing of other Americans they have surrendered their citizenship and are grist for the mill of war. As for worshipping the constitution as the Golden Calf you way off base Mr. Whitley. The constitution is akin to the tablets God gave to Moses, but in this case God inspired a group of deeply religious men to write, to give to their countrymen and the world a document of great secular importance. No Mr. Whitley I do not worship the constitution but rather I hold it in great awe as a standard by which this country should live. Followed close behind is of course is the Bill of Rights.

    • asmith1234

      Gramps43, I would agree with all that you wrote, however, the point of contention is that we’ve now got a government that is lawless and operating outside of the chains that bind it under the Constitution. This government has now declared the American people as being ‘terrorists’ just because there are Americans that want to see the government operate in a lawful manner instead of a tyrannical manner outside of the Constitution. Just think of the MIAC report or even Reid’s recent comments about American terrorists. Our government’s target for those drones are people like you and me…..NOT the real Muslim terrorists.

  • asmith1234

    David, did it ever occur to you that the ‘terrorists’ that the government wants to attack are the American citizens in this country that don’t have anything to do with the ‘terrorists’ that you are assuming that the government is targeting that are radical Muslims? At this point in time, it’s obvious that our government is targeting the American people that are objecting to the tyrannical direction that our government is taking us.

    This wouldn’t be the first time that a ruse has been done to deceive the American people into accepting something that will be used against those very same Americans.

    No different than in 1917 when the American people were fed the ploy to condone income tax that ONLY the wealthy would be taxed. The goal all along was to enslave the entire population. It boils down to when you condone evil being done against another, you are condoning that same evil to be done against yourself.

    One would have to have had their entire head in the sand to not hear the constant talk, by government, (think of the MIAC report or even Reid’s recent accusation of ‘terrorists’) of ‘homegrown terrorists’ in reference to, pro life people, pro 2nd Amendment people, Constitutionalists, 10th Amendment people, or anyone that speaks out against the unconstitutional federal takeover of our country.

    Try doing this little experiment… start paying attention to what government and mainstream media are painting as ‘terrorists’. They don’t want to focus on the real Muslim terrorists, they’re now targeting people like you and me.

    What you want to see condoned, is a complete violation of our Constitution. It is the Law of the Land and the very premise that our country was founded upon whether you like it or not, it’s what it is. BTW, just like the radical communists in this country, they want to cherry pick what they want to use out of the Constitution.

    Just because you want to see the Constitution violated, it’s insulting and nothing more than a straw man argument to compare it with worshiping the Constitution. It’s you that want to see the law broken and violated and to throw out that insult is beyond the pale.

  • Gregory Alan of Johnson

    The Constitution is, and has been for over two centuries, an idol in America. It’d be very interesting to see a transition from that bankruptcy document to the perfect law of Yehovah. After said transition America would truly be a Christian nation, unlike its current condition.

  • seeymour kleerly

    Isn’t Obamacare now part of America’s law according to our Constitution?

    • http://cogitarus.wordpress.com/ ★✩★ David ★✩★

      No. Only according to politicians and courts that don’t recognize the Constitution. It originated in the Senate and thus is invalid. But getting the truth done or what is right accomplished in Washington DC is a tall tall order. But no fear, when it all collapses — we can start over clean as there will be no money to do all the unconstitutional things Congress and the President do daily. The first one’s hurt will be all those who bought into the entitlement systems and who are living off it like parasites. The poor, poor!

  • rockyvnvmc

    Unfortunately this author hasn’t taken into consideration, that ‘pResident’ Obama/Soetoro/Soebarkah/Bounel’s (or Whatever his Real Name is) ‘administration’ considers returning Veterans and Constitutional Conservatives and Christians to be potential Domestic Terrorists… Opening up a Whole New can of Worms !

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