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California vs. Texas – Proof that Conservativism Beats Liberalism

News of Toyota’s departure from Southern California to Northern Texas should not come as a surprise to anyone. In the past several years alone, California has seen major capital flight by corporations looking for a more inviting economic environment. Heck, even Hollywood is choosing to film more and more in cities and states outside of California. Doing so allows them to take advantage of tax incentives that save these studios and production companies millions of dollars. The lure of the almighty dollar is still a strong motivator.

Anti-business governing has forced the state of California into a cautionary tale of sorts. The kind of horror story state politicians tell their successors – “whatever you do, don’t do that.” Over-regulation, complex tax structures, high taxes, and a very pro-labor environment has forced major manufacturers such as Boeing, Intel, Nissan, and now Toyota to greener pastures…literally – have you seen North Texas, or any of the southern States in which these businesses have moved? And it’s not just businesses. Sure, Silicon Valley still has a wealth of high talent labor, but with the highest state income tax in the country (and one of the overall highest costs of living), the best of the labor force is fleeing…along with their economic productivity and taxable income.

perryTo be sure, these major corporations don’t even need to entirely stop doing business in the state. Rather, some strategies include expanding operations in other states like Arizona. In fact, Arizona has been at the forefront of these recruiting efforts, touting their friendly business environment and low cost of living. You see, Californians can say good riddance all they want to these companies – big and small –but the trickledown effect is real. Over 200 companies have left California in the past 4 years. This means less employment opportunities, less corporate tax income, less individual tax income – just overall less revenue for California. Unemployment is still over 8%, and job growth in practically every major industry is declining month-over-month.

While the tech sector skews the business numbers in the State, even still, per cap GDP in California is 5th in the nation and 8th in terms of year-over-year per cap GDP growth. We should expect better from the largest state in the country, shouldn’t we? Yes, employment growth is on the rise, but it should be – it’s growing everywhere.

California needs to take a page out of Texas’ playbook. Blame big business all you’d like, but even with a lower minimum wage and lower overall salaries, relative to California, Texans still have a much stronger purchasing power. The dollar stretches a lot further when the cost of living is so much lower. And this is directly related to the economic and business environment in each state. Tech may still buoy California, but with more States providing incentives for tech growth, that will change as well.

Any aspiring tech entrepreneur just needs to look at what Mark Zuckerberg’s success has forced upon him – he paid over $2 billion in taxes last year.

That was 4% of California’s tax revenue.

The views expressed in this opinion article are solely those of their author and are not necessarily either shared or endorsed by EagleRising.com


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Brandon Michael

  • Blessings

    California is a beautiful State, however, the dems polices have just destroyed it.. I grow up on the southern coast in Santa Barbara, moved in 1980 to the east, as i saw the writting on the wall back then..My father stayed there until he died in 2009.. He worked very hard his whole life, as an award winning architect, a smart man, who invested well..However, when all said and done, California received 55% of his estate after selling off his properties.. It’s taxes rob from beneficiary’s, hard working citizens and businesses.
    The more it takes, the more people and businesses leave, the more people and businesses leave, the more burden is placed on who remain. It’s just one huge welfare state..

    • NoMoreMarxistsInDC

      That’s why over 75% of the population in California have taken to writing up trusts so the state doesn’t get the estate of the deceased. The estate just passes to the next person named in the trust–the beneficiary. It’s too bad that your father wasn’t aware of this. He would have stuck it to the State one last time.

      • grunion

        C’mon, that happens everywhere. The fed has forced us to go through all the expensive preparations for our estates. Let’s eliminate the IRS while we are at it and restore reason to taxation, which is killing all but the one percenters.

      • Blessings

        He did have a Trust with great attorneys and accountants, however, we chose to sell his property’s. None of us children live in Calif any longer. We still took this hit of 55% which is outrageous, regardless if we sale or not!

    • John Cherish

      Its a sad state of affairs that the government gets to rob its citizens after they are dead and steal 55% of it. But it is the way of Liberal governments to do this because its the law they wrote to steal from you

  • FrankC

    The huge drawback to businesses leaving California is the people that move with them. They are nearly all Democrats, they don’t know how to vote for anyone who is not a Democrat, and they demand the very things that destroyed the state they ran away from. They demand all of these things out of sheer ignorance of reality, and they drag down the new state they have moved to. Colorado is in a death spiral, and Texas is only a few election cycles behind them. Build a wall at the California border and don’t let anyone leave.

    • MRitter

      Probably one of the dumbest comments on here, Texas, gone to the the greatest numbered of uninsured, home of the greatest number of minimum wage employees, Texas, home to the greatest number of employees subsidized by the Federal government due to their low wages. Business does get a break by being there. Even Walmart recognizes that their low-wage employees make so little that many receive federal/state assistance. Corporate welfare at it’s beat.

      • gvette

        Don’t
        tell me, let me guess,. You got all your information from one of your liberal
        publications.

      • iheartdagny

        LOL, Speaking of dumb comments, re-read yours. Low wage jobs are a NECESSITY for people entering the work force. Retail is the perfect place for the inexperienced to gain that needed job experience. You think people go to work at their first job deserving $15.00 an hour? You are crazy! Forcing companies to pay a minimum wage only means there will be less spots for the kids to get their first job and you turn every city and town into a welfare dependent, street corner hangout for thug kids who learn that trying to work and advance themselves won’t happen for them and they might as well live in Detroit! Dumb, dumb, dumb.

        • MRitter

          Let’s see, we see now see corporations like Subway coming out for higher minimum wages. Your comment about kids is disingenuous to the real facts. Most of the minimum wage people are not kids, but adults with families. Try reading the Census Bureau reports, along with studies by the Kaiser Family Foundation, to list just 2 sources. Your silly argument is as weak as Pee Wee Herman.

          • iheartdagny

            Really? And WHY are adults HAVING to seek jobs at places like Subway and Walmart, huh? Liberal Democrats war on American prosperity is the reason. They can’t have more votes if people are not dependent on government. And people are not dependent on government when there are jobs to be had. See how that works? It’s all about vote-buying. The low-information voter, including you, think that minimum wage requirements are compassionate and vote for any evil-idiot who advocates for them. So, more jobs are lost, prosperity goes down and more people end up on welfare and crying for higher minimum wage requirements and businesses go out of business, more jobs are lost and so on. The perfect Democrat storm. The end game is always more votes for Democrats and increased poverty which Democrats cry and cry about but do nothing but keep people down with more laws and top of the laws that hurt more than help, more regulations and increased taxes TO HELP THE CHILDEN!!! My God it’s pure evil and you can’t see it. Amazing.

          • iheartdagny

            The Census Bureau is corrupted, like the IRS, NSA, et. al., didn’t you know? That was one of the first things Obama did, pull the Census Bureau under his wing making the Director a flunky of his with a direct line of communication instead of the autonomous agency it is supposed to be. Everything Democrats do is corrupt, so don’t cite Democrat talking point “reports” and expect to gain any credibility. For your information the Kaiser Foundation championed Obamacare. An unmitigated disaster that will further impoverish this nation and ensure the early deaths of our seniors along with the veterans already receiving government run healthcare. So, anything they report has to be taken with a grain of salt and will be considered suspect by THINKING people.

          • MRitter

            Your absurd response only demonstrates just how ignorant and myopic you are. Even the state of Texas acknowledges the fact that their citizens are uninsured and underinsured. There is little doubt that they lead the nation in minimum wage jobs.., the facts are there and can’t be refuted. The biggest thing that corrupt is your brain.

        • T-Mex

          I agree wit you. 100%.

      • Phillip_in_TX

        If you are referring to your comment, you are correct. It is one of the dumbest.

        • MRitter

          Since your ignorance is only exceeded by your stupidity, I’ll take your comment as as a compliment. Your lunacy did not attack nor refute one item I stated. The facts are easily found. Try doing so actual research.

          • Mike_the_Marine

            First, the greatest number of uninsured, why, because all of the unemployed are moving to Texas so they can get a job to feed their family. They prefer food to insurance. next, Texas has one of the largest family states in the US, therefore they have more people entering the job market at the lower pay where they should enter,( I doubt you will understand the next part) until the earn the right to have the higher earning jobs. Notice that is higher earning jobs, not paying jobs. Texas has got that right too. I don’t believe number 3 but they probably are the highest because they have the highest number of non-Americans working under the table and getting federal gifts. Businesses move there because the regulation are much less than any liberal state. There is no state income tax. The Texans want to work, love to work, and are proud to be Texans. Are you proud to be anything? There is no corporate welfare in Texas, but look into your liberal states and see what they are offering them to stay there.
            One of the lowest unemployments in the country. The fasting growing employment state in the country. More businesses are moving to Texas than any other state.
            I am sure the likes of you would not like the fact that people are willing to work for what they get, THANK THEIR LORD FOR WHAT THEY HAVE, and help their neighbor everyday of their lives. I guess that is foreign to you!!!!

      • Carol Skelton

        Prove it.

      • grunion

        Ahhh, the death rattle of an envious Kalifornian…

      • Mike_the_Marine

        First, the greatest number of uninsured, why, because all of the unemployed are moving to Texas so they can get a job to feed their family. They prefer food to insurance. next, Texas has one of the largest family states in the US, therefore they have more people entering the job market at the lower pay where they should enter,( I doubt you will understand the next part) until the earn the right to have the higher earning jobs. Notice that is higher earning jobs, not paying jobs. Texas has got that right too. I don’t believe number 3 but they probably are the highest because they have the highest number of non-Americans working under the table and getting federal gifts. Businesses move there because the regulation are much less than any liberal state. There is no state income tax. The Texans want to work, love to work, and are proud to be Texans. Are you proud to be anything? There is no corporate welfare in Texas, but look into your liberal atates and see what they are offering them to stay there.
        One of the lowest unemployments in the country. The fasting growing employment state in the country. More businesses are moving to Texas than any other state.
        I am sure the likes of you would not like the fact that people are willing to work for what they get, THANK THEIR LORD FOR WHAT THEY HAVE, and help their neighbor everyday of their lives. I guess that is foreighn to you!!!!

      • Ken Francis

        MRitter: If I – as a businessman – am forced to raise my wage scale a substantial amount, then I have the right to expect my employees to raise their standard of productivity – and customer relations skills – to a level that is in accordance with my expectations and their new pay scale. If ( for whatever reason ) they are incapable of doing so, I then have the right to replace them with other people who are capable. If you then advocate that a law is passed that will disallow me from replacing any workers who I feel aren’t doing their job, then you are politically aligned with the communists.

        • MRitter

          I too am a businessman, in business over 30 years. I’ve never paid my employees minimum wage. I have such low turnover, I save money. Costco is a prime example vs Sam’s Club/Walmart. Costco eats Sam’s Club for breakfast, lunch, & dinner. It appears your argument is in favor of corporate welfare. It is you that aligns more with communism. Pay less, have society take care of what you won’t. I pay 100% of my employees healthcare. Do you? As for productivity, I encourage a strong working environment. By giving my people a decent wage, good benefits, my workers want to come to work, they want to produce well, they know their actions have a direct relationship to profits. It’s called a team approach. Give them the tools to move mountains and they do! And have fun at it as well. I would just as soon make a little less in my pocket, giving more to my employees, keeping them happy, growing the business. Greed seems to be your motto. p

    • Seldena

      Texans will teach them to be conservatives I hope.

      • T-Mex

        Fat chance.

      • TheTexasCooke

        Don’t give us too much credit….Detroit was the experiment, California is the dream….the United States is the goal. Texas just doesn’t play. Socialism destroys nations and enslaves people. That is what we’ve always fought in Texas…7 generations in my family so far.

        • Seldena

          Hey Texas Cooke! Your post is great! I love Texas! My twin sisiter and hubby have a ranch in Groom Tx. What part of TX are you residing?

          • TheTexasCooke

            South of Austin, but most of my career was in the Big Bend.

    • grunion

      Y’all remember the yellow dog democrats? That’s right, they are a footnote in Texas history.

    • Rham

      Absolutely, misery loves company. But then, here are the differences between governors style: Perry is a promoter of businesses, the hippie from California is a promoter of public bathroom “fairness” in schools, allowing boys that think they are girls to use the rest rooms for girls and vice versa. How about that for government styles!

  • aggreen1

    ***Unfortunately, the liberal left is making great inroads in Texas, starting with the Texas public school system. Sad.

    • lakehead2

      True, the big city schools, which have the larger number of Mexican illegals, cater to the liberal beliefs that are not supported by the smaller communities. Warning, stay away from San Antonio………bad schools, bad elected leaders, bad politics.

      • Frank629

        San Antonio will become another disgrace of a big city. The only reason it hasn’t yet is that it is IN texas.The little LA RAZA slimeball mayor who runs it is the reason along with all illegals voting for him. AND the democrat party wants to put him on a presidential ticket with killery in 2016. Remember he was a KEYNOTE speaker at their convention .Texans BE ALERT AND BEWARE. BE KNOWLEDGIBLE OF WHAT IS GOING ON IN YOUR STATE!.

        • lakehead2

          You are speaking what the huge numbers of San Antonio folks are saying and it is frightening to think these things are going on in our once fair city. Our “leadership” is so far to the left now that we are hardly recognizable anymore. The city is expanding its borders out in all directions in order to accomodate all the “new” residents who are attracted to the lower cost of living. I have left it for good and won’t come back.

          • grunion

            Bad things happen when you build a big city in the middle of a desert. San Antonio is a politically conflicted city and their biggest worry is running out of water. Sound familiar?

    • Phillip_in_TX

      My wife and I home school our children. There are three other families on our street who do the same. Home schooling is very popular here.

      • Mike_the_Marine

        That is how we are going to protect our future. Home schooling and teaching the true history of the USA.

      • mallen11

        I have family in Texas and there are a lot of them homeschooling. Unfortunately, I was transferred to CA but we homeschool too. What is funny is that Chevron moved us from Texas years ago to Colorado then to CA and now they are wanting to move back to Texas. I wish they had stayed there but I have had some great adventures in my moves.

        • Phillip_in_TX

          It will be great to have you back! It looks like your company has come “full circle.”

          • mallen11

            Thank you, I always like your posts.

          • mallen11

            I have been retired for a long time and my children and grandchildren are established here so I am staying; sadly.

  • grassroot

    Yes, but Liberalism is a great ,”kingmaker.” As we see.

    • Seldena

      We do not have kings in America grassroot. You are in the wrong country!

  • http://gekruckeberg.com gekruckeberg

    Unfortunately, those California companies bring California workers here, with their California Liberal-Fascist delusions. God help Texas!
    gekruckeberg.com

    • Frank629

      THATS RIGHT SAD BUT TRUE . LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED IN COLORADO.

      • Dissenter13a

        What happened in Colorado? Legalized marijuana? William F. Buckley said twenty years ago that we should surrender in the war on drugs. A true libertarian would be down with that.

    • bflogal

      Texans are tough old birds…our religious right is strong and invincible…bring ’em on! We have a saying here “Don’t mess with Texas”…and we mean it!

    • Mike_the_Marine

      I had to move from Texas for a job and my son and family. I almost cry myself to sleep every night. If I wasn’t a Marine I would. I will be back to the Republic of Texas as soon as I can.

    • grunion

      He will.

  • ZACAL

    The first time I seen California was June 1956. It was the most beautiful land I had ever laid eyes on. However; keep in mind beauty is only skin deep, ugly goes all the way to the bone. The fight is over. Liberal progressives have won. California’s skin is gone. Give California back to Mexico or let it slide in the Pacific. Wouldn’t “ocean front property” look good in Arizona after all.

    • Renellin

      And yet, to avoid taxes, the rich liberals who insisted on these policies continue to move out to other states where they don’t pay such so much out of their millions.

      • ZACAL

        Your greatest power is “your power to chose”. The natural instinct of a business is to make money. That’s the way a free democracy or free enterprise society survives. Or you can choose socialism or worse.

        • Renellin

          I would agree that is the fallback interest, though not universal. I’m with choice first.

    • grunion

      Ocean front property in Arizona? That rocks….

  • MikeyParks

    The unfortunate truth about the Left is that they’re incapable of learning because everything is someone else’s fault.

    • bflogal

      I have never heard it put better!

    • Mike_the_Marine

      Very well put!

  • steven

    Texas has to be extremely careful, a lot Kalifornians want to bring their liberal progressive ways to Texas with them.

    As we identify them they need to be tarred and feathered and run out of town on a pole.

    Take a hint Kalifornians from Elton John’s Texas love song.

    • Renellin

      I remember that song well. When it came out, I was just a young liberal with stars in my eyes for long-haired guys. Still, I couldn’t help but love the song, and respect the attitude behind it. Rednecks definitely have their strong points. Any woman should agree they’re absolutely useful and handy to have around.

      • steven

        A Texas size thank you!!!!!!

        • Renellin

          Sir, you’re most welcome. I can happily say I drove over a thousand miles to Texas once, had a steak, and turned around. Of course I was also delivering a vehicle. I have been to NYC for a hot dog, Texas for a steak, Wyoming for Cabela’s, the Chesapeake for seafood, –that was a cool job back then. I’ve hit Texas perhaps a half dozen times. It’s part of this country’s heart.

  • AG Dot Com!

    Now go read liberal blogs. There are concentrated leftist efforts to overrun and take control of Austin and other Texas locales. They are organizing – which means conservatives have to get the lead out and get organized too – before Texas is just another Californistan with Austin as its San Francisco.

    • gvette

      Just a comical look at that. I think in Texas, they’d just shoot them.

      • Phillip_in_TX

        I believe there is “no bag limit!” ; )

      • Mike_the_Marine

        I thought that is why the issue guns at 18!

      • flagmantexasmarine

        God Bless Texas

        • T-Mex

          I wasn’t born in Texas, but I got here as fast as I could. And I’ll go to California only as a tourist….maybe.

        • gvette

          I’m with you there. Also, thanks to all that responded.

      • grunion

        Some of our kids may try to smoke them. I want a law in Texas that bans smoking Californians. The alternative would be too horrible. Save our kids! No Cali’s in Texas.
        (I am trying to imitate a liberal response)

      • AG Dot Com!

        Go to Austin. Even old cow/rodeo towns like San Angelo (I was stationed there in the early 90s) are sprouting “granola communities” – full of fruits, nuts & flakes.

      • Renellin

        Some years ago, the satirical mag The Onion posted an article about Texas elections. They voted in a lovely pearl handled revolver as there representative in Congress. They figured that would be the best way to ensure their interests were properly represented. I wish I had printed it and saved it, because I haven’t been able to locate it since.

    • Carol Skelton

      We are working on it. lefties have been after Texas for a long time.

      • Renellin

        The stronger stand you take, the harder they will work to bring you down. Stand tall, Texas!!

    • T-Mex

      Austin already is Liberal. I visited Madison, WI last year and it, too is a Liberal haven. But here in Houston, we shun them.

      • AG Dot Com!

        Yep I know. A lot of the Detroit homosexual community flocked there after Detroit collapsed and New Orleans got smoked by Katrina in 2005.

      • Marilyn Z

        The last election map I showed it had Houston as blue as well as SA, Dallas, Austin and, of course, the Rio Grande Valley where they are literally pouring over the border. My elderly aunt and uncle, he is a WWII vet & they live about a mile north of the Rio Grande) report that the illegals are building shanties in every clump of trees and will be there until they can get their names on the dole.

        Can you imagine sneaking into another country ILLEGALLY where you don’t speak the language and you don’t have to because the other illegals who came there before you will get you set up with all the benefits and the government doesn’t care…in fact, they are glad to have you if you vote for them? I never thought that would be my country.

        What are you liberals thinking and why do you believe the party line? You are being lied to about nearly everything yet you eat it up and spout it out again. I have been amused by a couple of my Calif liberal friends (I grew up in S. Cal) when they have moved to a more conservative area, they have switched their affiliations…probably because they are finally hearing and seeing the truth.

  • johnanaguski

    Jut waitng for the big one to take the left coast.

    • JimBob

      In the realm of economics, the big one has already hit the left coast.

    • Renellin

      It’s kind of like the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, right? I’v been waiting for it to hit the oceans for decades, but we have to remember it’s not good to pollute the oceans, and also what about the dozen or so (yes, tongueincheek) good people there who don’t deserve to die like that and maybe have nowhere else to go?

      • Josiah Victor Hoffman

        Why was there not a righteous person in Sodom and Gemorrah? If Lot was there then why was the not anyone, not even one? Due to the fact God demands that you separate from evil in order to do good! It is one of the commandments in Deuteronomy, it is written through the Psalms,and it is clearly stated in the Proverbs! Why do people think that they are wiser than the Almighty? (which is Idolatry)
        If you are living in a city or state that promotes Sodomy, supports abortions, and wants to take your constitutional rights…Then leave! God refused to hear Lots prayers…He sent Gabriel, Rafael, and Michael because of Avraham´s anguish…not Lots prayers!
        You do not have to wait until your family is sodomized to leave like Lot did!

        • Renellin

          Well, not a righteous person that Lot could find. Try going into many of these school districts and try to find a righteous (or even thinking) teacher–did you hear about Philadelphia? All these teachers cheated for their students, having them write their answers on scrap paper to be filled in later by the teacher (bet they still didn’t do that well), and the teachers received merit pay for their ‘good’ work? I do hope to establish another residence within the next few years, at least for half of the year. I will choose carefully.

  • Seldena

    Are the liberals accusing Toyota of racism? Would not surprise me! Great for Toyota for being business savy and knowing a better place to conduct business. The left just do not get it.

    • Renellin

      Wait. What race are Californians? I’m falling behind here. BTW how many Californians does it take to screw in a light bulb? Answer: 10 One to do the actual screwing, and 9 to meditate on the experience.

      • ChristianMan

        We are not all mindless morons out here. I would love ot see them split this state. SoCal is a lot more conservative than you think. And what makes you so much better than anyone else?

        • chadbag

          Being smart enough to not live in California? You couldn’t pay me enough to live there. It is nice to visit once in a while, but a great relief to leave when the visit is over. There are lots of good honest people in California, but their numbers are lower every year as they pack up and leave, saying enough. (Same with Massachusetts — I grew up there and love the area and there are nice, smart, and conservative people there too (my town was pretty conservative overall, but we were 45 miles from Boston, and they did pass Prop 2 1/2 back in the late 70s to limit property tax growth), but I will never live there again.)

        • Renellin

          Darling. I’m not better than others. Sorry to offend you. Jokes like that are certainly catering to the cliche of whatever you are joking about. California is beautiful as seen with my own eyes, but the way that state is run is just awful. My State is no better, though it is extremely beautiful where I live as well. You must admit, you have your share of loonies. Here’s hoping they stay in SF or BelAir or somewhere not near you, okay?

          • ChristianMan

            Oh, I definitely agree the loons are running the asylum. I’ve lived here all my life and would love to get outo of here. But at my age, it’s hard to find a job that would pay my bills, so, I’m stuck between a rock and hard place. When they re-elected Gov. Moonbeam to finish the screw up he started way back when, I just couldn’t believe it. My sons, thanks to the military were able to get out of here. Maybe when I retire, I can finally get out of here.

          • Renellin

            Ah good. No offense taken then? I too am tied to my job for just a few more years. I really like the six month here/six month there lifestyle. I will be looking at Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Southern Utah or Nevada–that general vicinity. Any ideas to share?

          • ChristianMan

            I’m actually looking at TN, NC area, that’s where my boys are.

          • Renellin

            I don’t want to live in the places my children live. However, my children would love to travel to any of the states I mentioned to visit me. Of course, they’re not all permanently settled yet, so we’ll see. I agree that is a good criterium for choosing.

  • D S

    Problem is, you can not educate stupid and Liberals are stupid. Another problem is, they have to have jobs, so they will follow, then take their Liberalism with them and turn Texas into a Liberal mecca. They did this in Colorado, in the 80’s because of high taxes, they moved from California, to Colorado, then wanted the same Liberal garbage they had in California, not understanding why their taxes had been high in California. So now Colorado has become a high tax state and proves you can not educate stupid.

    • Phillip_in_TX

      Good point! We don’t mind “Welcoming” them here, as long as, they want to experience freedom. We don’t need to “import” any of the reasons they left California.

      • grunion

        Have you seen what they have done to Austin. I pretty much grew up there and the friendliness, the laid back lifestyle and the feedoms we enjoyed back then are all gone. Thank you California refugees for ruining my favorite city in the U.S. T*rds

        • canucksam

          Isn’t Austin pretty much an Islamic city now?

          • grunion

            Well, ethnically there are more Vietnamese and Hindu Indians than muslims. Texans seem to have a special regard for muslims. Were I one, I would stay away from Texas.

        • Phillip_in_TX

          We could always build a wall around it. ; ) Moving to the Capitols, and ruining them, seems to be the liberals m.o. That way they can attempt to ruin the rest if the State.

    • Renellin

      Ah but there’s hope. They tried to take over Arizona as well, but Arizona is striking back.

    • mallen11

      This has been going for a long time in Texas. The schools started being affected in the ’60s when yankee liberals changed the school system to become liberal. As soon as people moved from liberal States like New York and California they bring their libeal thinking and try to poison the thinking of the conservatives. Thank God they haven’t completely taken over because of the strong faith that most Texans still have.

  • http://eaglesforamerica.com jeffbwillis

    Perhaps California should wake up to the reality of what is happening! A lot of Californians are. They are exiting the state. It’s a shame too! This beautiful state with a delightful climate is attracting career welfare recipients like flies to honey! Are we so blind to the fact that many hard working Americans are living in parts of the nation that are not so attractive! Why should the freeloaders be allowed to enjoy the best parts of America?

    • Renellin

      I would like to know just where is it so unattractive in this country? Beauty is everywhere. I have traveled the roads all over this country and I have yet to find a state not blessed with nature’s beauty and bounty, though it certainly comes in different forms. I wouldn’t live in California for love or money.

      • T-Mex

        From the land of fruits and nuts I would run away too. Fast.

        • ARETHEYNUTS

          There are some wonderful parts of California, orange county is nice. I grew up on the beach in the South Bay ( hermosa/ Redondo beach) it was laid back, friendly and beautiful. After I became disabled in 2008 I couldn’t afford to live in my home town. Then the knucklehead in Northern California voted Jerry Brown back in, it gave me the incentive to leave. I now live in Arizona , COL is cheaper and I would never go back. I do miss the smell of the ocean and the night breezes.

      • paulrph1

        Not much to Nevada. Lived there for twenty years though but glad to be gone. If it happens in Vegas it stays in Vegas, thank goodness.

    • paulrph1

      Yep! They are leaving that state in droves and one place they are moving to is Colorado. We can watch and see what they have done to that state.

      • http://eaglesforamerica.com jeffbwillis

        But they are also flocking to Texas and Arkansas. Not to mention Oregon and Washington! The sad part is most have done so reluctantly. In many cases they were “priced out of” or “taxed out of” where they have spent their lives. And it’s really sad. A “national right to work law,” coupled with a “ban on public sector unions,” would have a monumental impact on California. There should likewise be some restrictions on “career welfare recipients” targeting certain states for migration.

      • Seldena

        All up in smoke with the Mary Jane stuff!

    • colsooonscoorner

      “cause the libs love the votes. Though it’ll end up destroying everything. Even for the libs.

  • Renellin

    Liberals always like to point a finger and say conservatives are pro business (they call it pro-big business) and that means they don’t like the little guy. Let me clue you in, liberals, the little guy likes nothing better than being able to make his own choices because he/she earns a living and has their own money to spend! Yeah, we should be concerned about abuse of the worker by business, and abuse of the environment by business. We should be just as concerned about abuse by the government to business. Balance people, balance!

  • http://gekruckeberg.com gekruckeberg

    Oy vey! Sometimes I’m gald I moved from Texas to Mexico seven years ago!
    gekruckeberg.com

    • Seldena

      Glad you did! You sound like you belong in Mexico!

  • Knife10

    The promise of “free stuff” is hard to beat at the polls. Throw in some race and class baiting and you’ve got a winning combination when election time comes around. Common sense and sound economics don’t stand a chance against stupidity.

    • loulun

      What happens when the money runs out ?

      • Knife10

        Check with Margaret. No, wait…She’s rolling over in her grave at the fiscal stupidity of the liberals.

      • grunion

        Then they will riot and steal and kill innocent people. After all, it wasn’t their fault.

        • Knife10

          Is anybody watching what’s happening right now in Africa. Who is kidnapping and selling who. Nothing has changed except the hate rhetoric put out by the liberal mafia. But, hey, if it works, keep on doing it, eh?

          • Renellin

            It never stopped. And it continues all over the world. Most often it goes to women, but all sorts get taken and sold.

          • Knife10

            There is, after all is said and done, some measure of poetic justice when history repeats itself and facts fly in the face of the lies of corrupt and otherwise evil people. Facts mean nothing to agenda driven liberal mafians, but it does my heart good to see their hypocrisy exposed.

          • Renellin

            Kind of like global warming?

          • Knife10

            The new term is climate change. Facts didn’t support the global warming scam so somebody decided to change the language. Climate does change. Can’t dispute that. And that’s their argument now…but it’s still the same power grabbing money scam it always was. And they will talk and argue and label and demonize until hell freezes over because that’s what they do.

          • Renellin

            I think you’re still behind. Isn’t the new term “Sustainability?” Too bad they couldn’t apply the term to Social Security, Welfare, or Medicare.

          • Dissenter13a

            Actually, the facts DO support it … but if you don’t escape the Faux Noise cocoon, you will never know that.

          • SuperDave2

            In Africa, It’s Muslims kidnapping & killing Christians. Barack Insane Obama is arming the Muslims!

    • grunion

      Yep, that huge block that votes based on race no matter what their politics. Is it stupidity? Certainly looks like it.

      • Knife10

        Maybe it’s an entitlement “You owe me” mentality.

    • ConspiracyOfFools

      There ought to be some sort of test to at least know that they know who is running for office and not just go vote straight democrat. And if they pass the short test they get a voter id so they can vote.

      • Knife10

        Voting a straight party ticket takes the hassle of thinking out of voting. Having confidence all the candidates will support the party’s agenda in lockstep fashion further removes having to think about issues. That’s the reason facts don’t matter to democrat politicians nor voters. And that’s the reason things like the Constitution, laws, the debt ceiling, and equal justice don’t matter either. Their agenda is to redistribute wealth and use whatever means necessary to impose their idea of social justice, environmentalism, gun control and all the other liberal crap on everybody. If we can’t get a simple voter ID law passed to eliminate voter fraud, we’re sure not going to get them to take a test. My god, man! Don’t you know they would be rioting and screaming racism or worse…like they don’t already.

        • ConspiracyOfFools

          I am weary of them using the race card and now the homosexuals/lesbians are doing the same, exerting pressure because people want to be politically correct. Well I don’t want to be politically correct, I want to live and let live, maybe there ought to be an island, another country for the haters to be sent to. The blacks use the race card and actually they are the ones who grow up hating the whites.

          • Knife10

            Hang in there. We don’t have much say about who lives in the world, but we can pick our friends. I look for good people who treat me well and avoid the rest. That’s about the best we can do and hope TS doesn’t HTF.

  • wolfd

    Like a flee off a dead dog…..frrrreeeeeee….. The tax base that’s left is gonna get it……. Paying for all the illegals Escalades , ebt cards, and HUD housing……imagine if the politicians had the common sense to give their voters what they voted for….. Prop 187…… Since it’s overturn, this state was doomed….. F- bleeding heart libtards

  • USMC 64-68

    This is an easy comparison to make: Liberalism is an inherent failure. It is built on an un-American, un-biblical world and life view. As such, it produces rotten fruit – in every aspect of life it touches.

    • Josiah Victor Hoffman

      Semper Fi! very well said sir!

      • USMC 64-68

        Semper Fi. Thanks

    • Seldena

      Love your post! You summed it all up perfectly!

    • randy

      couldn’t have said it better myself, stupidity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results……liberalism/progressivism/socialism= epic failure across the board.

    • rottenrollin

      HEAR, HEAR.

      Succinct and centered on target.

  • paulrph1

    I should point out that it is high time that the liberals start pulling their own weight and quit expecting a hand out from the government. Getting money from the government to protest and the likes (granted this one is not the government but from another liberal). Getting money from the government to have an abortion which is your own fault. Why should others have to pay for your stupidity?

  • reggiec

    The problem with California is in its large cities. After all that is where most of the government jobs are. The large population centers vote for the left and entitlements overpowering the vote of rural areas. The political division within the state could almost be cut with a knife across the state below Los Angeles and then up the spine of the Sierra Nevada Mountains. Below and East of that line is Conservative. North and West of it is Liberal.

    • Marilyn Z

      This is the problem everywhere. The largest cities in Texas are also very liberal but there are enough of us outside those cities to continue to keep Texas Red.

      • Renellin

        I agree. It’s happening everywhere. I don’t think for a minute half of these people vote–it has to be very easy to cheat in the city. Where I live the people counting my vote have known me personally for dozens of years–there you can go around to multiple places, and it seems clear the workers at the polling place are complicit.

        • Marilyn Z

          I have to stop you there…I worked the polls for many years and we were extremely fair. Even when we had a big argument with someone about their eligibility, we would allow them to vote yet the ballot was held back to be examined and cross-referenced to make sure it was valid. Many man hours involved.

          • Renellin

            Point taken, but we know that not all precincts work the way yours does. Occasionally people go to jail, but certainly not all of them. We also always hear the stories about the braggarts claiming to have voted 12-20 times across precincts. Perhaps they’re lying, but also maybe not.

          • Seldena

            Great for you being a person of INTEGRITY! This is missing in our rotten government and what is the problem having an ID to prove who you are? I really do not understand this.

  • Whittaker Chambers

    This is funny, the media propaganda touts governor Brown as having an economic boom.

    • MRitter

      Actually, Brown has done a good job at reigning in the budget deficit. Try doing a little research.. Texas’s budget problems are far from over. As the economy strengthens, and it is, states have been reaping more revenue, it’s hidden many issues. Texas also had a serious deficit, they are #1 in uninsured/underinsured in the US. That puts the burden on the taxpayers. If I was a business and wanted low wages, poor public schools, Texas would surely be high on my list of states to consider.

      • Marilyn Z

        My granddaughter lives in Plano and her high school was rated one of the top 100 in the US for both private and public schools…believe it was 63. Wish I knew the total number of HS’s in the country for a better comparison. My daughter teaches math in a public school in Texas and she turns out some really great students. I realize that the naysayers love being able to tar Texas with whatever they think they have, but I do not see this. My kids, although born in Calif, grew up in Iran and Texas. When we moved to Iran from Texas, they were both ahead of the kids from other states and both kids were skipped up a grade once the teachers saw what they could do.

        There are bad schools everywhere, but I would not call ours poor by any means. What drags the test scores down is all the children of illegals who can’t speak English and whose parents do not push education at home…of course we have our fair share of white trash who don’t push education at home either, but every state has those.

        I read, a couple of years ago, that it cost $16,000 per student per year in the Los Angeles public schools yet they were still turning out nitwits.

        • MRitter

          I live in Northern VA, where we have one of the top perineal HS in the country by any standard (Thomas Jefferson science & Tech HS), along with Fairfax, Arlington Counties and surrounding cities) that constantly score in the top 5 on SAT scores. It does help having several of the top per capita income counties in the USA. I also lived in Texas. From Anson, to Ft Worth, to Mt Pleasant. I also spent some time going to school there. I’ll agree that there are many schools that are above average, some exceptional. However, there are many that are very substandard, lack adequate resources, and are disgraceful. The tax base in many small towns is not strong enough to provide for a quality education.

      • Mike C

        Maybe in terms of Medicaid coverage, but MediCal in California has not been paying out and now close to 50% of physicians won’t see MediCal patients. It’s about access to health care, and Texas has California beat.

        And the Government’s supplemental poverty measure shows that Cali has the highest poverty rate I n the country…and in terms of education, California is 1 spot behind Texas in population with a high school degree. Hardly something to be proud of.

        • SuperDave2

          People who want their children to excel, will home school them. Who wants their kid to graduate with an “Excellent” in ‘Gay Studies’?

      • Bos95

        Still it is hard to counter 400 Companies leaving the state of California. And with Hollywood going more and more outside the state to film it will be hard to make that up.

        • MRitter

          Hollywood left long ago. People want realism. Technology has made it a lot easier to go to other places.

      • kenstaff

        kalifornia sounds like just the place for you and the rest of the brain dead liberal zombies! Best of luck to you!

      • Judy

        If we could just get rid of the wetbacks , welfare blacks and the ignorant liberal dems Texas would’t have any problems

        • MRitter

          No, what Texas needs are more honest Americans instead of racist bigots like yourself.

          • SuperDave2

            When libtards can’t support their position……..they always drag out the old, tired “RACIST” comment.

      • Whittaker Chambers

        You miss the point libby. But that is redundant.

  • PatriotInk

    THE problem with Mexiforniastan is that their space cadets keep voting for the very mentally disordered liberal losers that are causing their own destruction, the rest of the country notwithstanding…

  • Marilyn Z

    Did I miss this fact? NO STATE INCOME TAXES IN TEXAS! The new Toyota plant will be going in just a few miles from my home and everyone here is excited. We still have tons of wide open spaces here and we welcome new business.

    Governor Perry doesn’t always do as I would like, but he is working to continue to bring business to Texas and we all appreciate the great lifestyle here.

    • Renellin

      Right. We should remember nobody–no, nobody is going to do everything we like and we won’t like everything they do.

      • Marilyn Z

        Only in a perfect world.

        • Renellin

          The perfect world couldn’t be perfect for everybody. Especially with what would happen to all the liberals, right?

    • ConspiracyOfFools

      You know what I like about Perry, when he makes a mistake and there is public outcry he admits it wasn’t the better decision and makes attempt to undo what he did, unlike the Hillary, Obama, Reid, Pelosi, they are hell-bent on getting their way, if they have to cheat, lie, spin, spin, spin. They don’t ever want to have been wrong or made a mistake.

  • http://www.blacksoulsbook.com Patrick Thomas

    The liberal/progressives bring destruction to whatever they touch. They have ruined California. I mean Californians are so dumb that they elect Nancy Pelosi in every election. She’s the limpidity of dumbness.

    • Jane Goodwin

      You do have to wonder about people who keep voting Pelosi in again, election after election. You would think they would find her embarrassing, wouldn’t you? We do and we don’t even live there any longer. Pelosi and Boxer are 2 of the reasons we left.

    • Seldena

      Wonder why they keep Nancy, Barbara and Diane in office? Could it be they all like the gays and all the different styles of liberalism and they need idiots in Washington to help them?

      • ConspiracyOfFools

        And then there are all the liberals that moved to Nevada and now they can’t shake off Harry Reid.

  • Marilyn Z

    Except those large blue cities like Dallas and Austin etc. The rest of us work darn hard for what we have and we are better for it.

    • Judy

      Yep I’m a conservative Independent among a city full of liberal demacrats and let me tell you it’s a tough place to be. I live in Austin and I work in an office full of liberals. They consider me a racist because I don’t like obama and don’t vote for the dems. Don’t understand why they get so mad when I tell them I don’t vote democratic because unlike the rest of the city of Austin I don’t need the government to wipe my ass for me.My mama taught me how to do that when I was two so apparently they need to be re-potty trained.

    • GeneP54

      Not Dallas so much….yet. But Austin and San Antonio are getting heavier blue every day.

  • http://eaglesforamerica.com jeffbwillis

    True, there is beauty everywhere in the U.S. But, California has the highest rated climate in the nation. That’s because it is so mild! By the same token, there are towns like Beatrice, Nebraska that are giving away houses in an attempt to entice people to move there! We have a lot of space in the country. Perhaps these unfortunates might be more properly dispersed to areas in need of population growth. True, some of these places are seen to be remote and “out in the middle of nowhere.” But, there are often opportunities in those places! Especially with a change in administrations and the adoption of a real energy policy!

    • Bos95

      Who wants California? With earthquakes, wild fires, mudslides, etc. not a very nice place to live.

      • Dissenter13a

        Compared to Texas??? I’ve lived in both, and would pick Cali any day.

        • OKCPatriot

          Of course you would, you’re a fruit and a nut.

  • M. Faze

    I love California mainly because I grew up there. But, it has slowly become so Liberal, I couldn’t wait to leave the State of Granola (in the 70’s) to anywhere but there. Why do I call it the State of Granola? If you take out all the FRUITS and the NUTS, you will still have the FLAKES to contend with. Nancy Pelosi, Barbara Boxer, and Dianne Feinstein all fall in one of those Categories.

    • Seldena

      I love your post! Those three are so wrong about so much!

      • M. Faze

        Thank You!

    • SATCitizen

      Those flakes have certainly destroyed what was once a beautiful state.

      • M. Faze

        AMEN to that.

  • Jane Goodwin

    That’s why we left California 9 years ago. Never, ever considered going back either. NC has a lower payroll tax rate and is one of the top states for Tech jobs as well.

    As far as the weather goes, yes, SoCal has lovely weather. But having 4 real seasons isn’t all bad.

    • sanman99

      Yes nice weather, about the only place you can safely enjoy it is in your backyard.

  • jarhead

    Any one with a brain should leave the leftCOAST, and leave the fruits, nuts and flakes behind. Way to go Toyota….please buy GM so my income taxes can be reduced and IRS may stop their illegal persecutions of honest American taxpayers.

    • Deborah G

      The east Coast from Washington on up is Polluted with Liberals

      • M. Faze

        Definition of a Liberal; One who is so Open Minded, that if they “TILT” their head in any direction, their brains will FALL OUT!

        • Deborah G

          Liberal = Immoral

          • M. Faze

            AMEN!

  • Insurgent

    The East coast and West coast are loaded fags, lesbos, and fruitcakes!!

    • Deborah G

      yes indeed. NY is a cesspool and the Governor there said “if you aren’t for gay Marraige, abortion rights and liberal ideals , there is no place for you in New York” We are obliging and leaving our beloved home to make the Communists have the state all to themselves.

      • Seldena

        Can’t blame you for leaving where you are not welcomed just because you have a different view. Liberals are sick!

        • Deborah G

          The reality is the nuts are all around NYC the rest of the state is very conservative but I guess he doesn’t like us LOL>This is a moron who spit in the face of every taxpayer and he can have his welfare and illegals.Wonder who will pay for them when we all leave?

          • Renellin

            It is true. NYC is the cancer.

        • Renellin

          He won’t be reelected.

  • Doug

    How many people are leaving California with a blind opinion that the problems they help create is being left behind? I’m talking of liberals who will bring their philosophy to other non-liberal states then campaign to change their new home. Sorry, but I feel that those who have participated in the basket case known as California should remain and fix what they created. I compare this to a person traveling with a disease that will spread and kill those around them, we should endeavor not to allow this to happen. I am happy to see corporations depart California but I would not like the “isms” (people who have embraced Socialism, Communism, Liberalism etc. – AKA Demoncrats) to come with them.

    • Seldena

      You have a very good valid point. Remember when we hated the Vietnamese(Northern) because of the war? Remember hating the Japanese? They immigrated here, got their citizenship and are successful contributors to the U.S. Now, come muslims (not all are bad) but they come with an agenda and try forcing their beliefs and ways on us. This is what could happen to Texas. I pray not!!!

      • Doug

        Well, I’m not quite that old to remember the Japanese. LOL.

        • Seldena

          I am not either, but I know some history about Pearl Harbor and the torture our military went through in the camps. There was so much hatred for the “Japs”. Thank goodness there is forgiveness.

  • sanman99

    I was born and raised in CA and I can tell you first hand how the illegals and the liberals have all but destroyed this State on many levels. I can’t wait to get out of here.

    • mwl

      I loved California, its a beautiful state. Very rich in history and yea round activities of all kinds.
      Closed my automotive shop and left. Leftists, socialists, communists hear me I am not paying. Yeah I used to make 120-180k a year not anymore 27-30k now and my motto is: If I dont make it You cant take it. So I WILL NOT labor over anything anymore. Debt..who cares about no stinkin debt. States dieing yup it is. Ill piss on communist californias grave.
      Liberals dont make money their hand is always out, so which direction can it go….

  • Herb

    Unfortunately kulifornia and its screwed up business policies will continue to lose business. When will the stupid legislature here including liberal progressive brown realize that a communist state that supports unions and welfare will never attract business. Why would people re-elect a stupid liberal communist to the governorship where he failed before, Brown is a poor choice at best and his policies and his tongue tied to of**kos ass, is an example of lack of leaqdership. The democraps here will likely bankrupt kulifornia is it isn’t now.
    The creative part of kulifornia is gone leaving only the sponges. I wish I could leave this blood sucking state of communists and liberal progressives, but I have my life savings in a home that is upside down. It is in the land of the illegals (Inland Empire) and I can barely exist here on a fixed income. People here are so friendly and helpful that if I was drowning, they would pour water on me. What a sad, fu**ed up place to live. More and more illegals keep coming here for free stuff. I don’t get any free stuff and I have lived here most of my life.. When are we going to put a stop to this frigging government in this state and the debacle in D.C where all evil emanates?

    • Fed up!

      Just like they did in Detroit

  • Seldena

    AMEN!!!!

  • John3:16

    They don’t care…check out Agenda 21.

  • DetroitDom

    Let Kookifornia have all the liberals, gays, etc. When God decides to push it into the ocean, our country will be much better for it.

    • Fed up!

      You better hope the kooks go with it. Like cockroaches they get scatter into other States

  • get-it-on

    I have lived in the wretched state of CA for 48 years. Early on, it was the land of opportunity, great weather, beaches, mountains, etc… Since the democrats and liberals have taken over, it is no longer “paradise”. Taxes galore, fees, regulations and did I mention taxes? In addition, for businesses, workers’ comp is out of control and helping to drive employers elsewhere. There is a statewide $400 billion deficit this year, not including $700 billion in unfunded public pensions. At some point, this $hit house is going to come crashing down thanks to liberal policies and the public employee unions.

  • seeymour kleerly

    Lack of environmental and safety REGULATIONS can save businesses big bucks too! If your plant doesn’t explode, you’ve made a great choice! Greed rules supreme.

  • ToniStimmel

    The reigning government in California is against praying but all for preying. Parts of their cities, the growing parts, already look like Detroit, an out of state liberal paradise.

  • Publius40

    The quality of life in Texas is under attack from all the migrating left wingers we have pouring into the state.

    Our water resources are being drained to supply the population growth to the point many farmers no longer can pump water for their crops.

    Wildlife habitat is being covered with subdivisions and concrete.

    I would like to see Texas institute a no growth policy except population growth from births of existing residents, and preserve for future generations the Texas we all love so much.

    Yankees and lefties are like hemorrhoids. If they come down and go back up they are alright, but if they come down and stay they are a pain in the a*s.

    • Dissenter13a

      I don’t mind cutting your water supply off.

      • SirWilhelm

        Typical Leftst. No regard for any unintended, or intended, consequences. You know what happens to people when you cut off their water supply, don’t you?

        • Dissenter13a

          Yep. That is why we want an EPA.

          • SirWilhelm

            You have an EPA.

          • Dissenter13a

            You lunatics want to dismantle it.

          • SirWilhelm

            Why do you have to start calling me names? Are you insanely angry at me? Yes, it needs to be dismantled, because it no longer functions as originally intended, and now uses it’s power to do things like shutting down coal mines, and coal powered plants, without replacing them, endangering our energy grid, and driving up the cost of electricity. It’s generally known that all bureauracies become bloated, inefficient, and over powered, and need to be dismantled, and done away with, or replaced, if absolutely necessary.

          • Dissenter13a

            The coal mines in question probably should be shut down. If you understood economics, you would know that pollution is a subsidy to the polluter.

            I remember when the air was dirty and sex was clean. 🙂 Nixon gave us the EPA, and it has done a lot of good. You forget it, and want to bring back the bad old days.

          • SirWilhelm

            “probably should be shut down”? If you don’t know for sure. why shut them down? Shutting them down, put a lot of people out of work, are you going to find them new jobs? Most of them live in Appalachia, where jobs are scarce to begin with, but,”probably should be shut down”, is enough rational for you?

            I too remember when the air was dirty, and sex was clean, if you were married. And yes, I remember when Nixon gave us the EPA, and I have seen the results. The river I swam, and fished in, when I was young and foolish, was very dirty, but it is now clean enough that they hold a bass tournament in the middle of the downtown of the city, Pittsburgh. But, I also see, today, that the EPA is out of control, as is the administration that it is part of. I forget nothing, and don’t want to “bring back the bad old days”. I want to restrain the EPA, before it destroys the energy system we have today, without having the technology to replace it, ready to go.

          • SirWilhelm
      • medivac

        Like California cut off the water supply to the farmers because of a guppy ???
        BTW, you can keep your idiot politicians in California !!

      • Ddenney1

        The same state that is destroying farmers for minnows WONDERFUL logic.

      • MajJohn

        Cut off what?? You have even less water than we have. Your drought is even more severe.

      • Publius40

        Yeah, you strike me as one of those lefties who would vote a town dry and move.

        The problem is we have been in a drought for 2 years and water is a finite resource. We can’t keep adding millions of people to our state and not have an adverse effect on our limited water resources.

        The drought has been so bad in Wichita Falls, Texas they are now setting up a system to collect the waste water – toilet water included – and recycle it for drinking water. Google “Drought in Wichita Falls Texas” and read for yourself.

        Or, have you noticed the increased price of beef at the grocery store? Read about, “Texas, the largest cattle-producing state in the United States, is
        facing its fourth year of drought, pushing beef prices to record highs.” at: http://www.kyforward.com/2014/05/four-year-drought-in-texas-reducing-cattle-supply-pushing-beef-prices-to-record-highs/

        There is an old saying in Texas that, “Whiskey is for drinking, and water is for fighting.” Water has always been a limited resource in Texas. Texas needs to restrict the population growth if we are to have any decent standard of living.

        • Dissenter13a

          Actually, I live where you get some of your water from. It would be poetic justice to dump the kind of crapola in your water that you Rightards want to dump into ours.

          • Publius40

            Bet you know all the words to Kumbayah.

          • Dissenter13a

            No, but I do know the words to Texas’s national anthem. 🙂

    • Renellin

      They have to do that to try to bolster their claims of global warming. They suck up all the water and then complain the climate is getting drier. See how that works?

  • Dissenter13a

    Per capita income in California: $44,980. In Texas, $41,471. Cali still has scoreboard.

    • GeneP54

      But $41 goes a lot further in Texas than $44 does in Cali.

      • Dissenter13a

        Alas! The price of living in Texas includes living in Texas.

        • Rick J Black, Sr.

          I’ll take that deal. It is better than living in a Marxist state.

          • Dissenter13a

            If you’d rather live in a fascist plutocracy, be my guest.

          • medivac

            Texas=Heaven———California=Hell !!

          • Rick J Black, Sr.

            Rather be free than serve on bended knee in a Marxist state like California or New York. Texas is neither Fascist nor a Plutocracy. I don’t believe you know the meaning of the words you use and if you did, you would not use those two describe Texas. I also have doubts you ever lived there.

          • Dissenter13a

            When I worked in San Antonio–the world’s largest small town– one of our partners told me that about 5,000 people in that town counted. Those are the people you had to know, and had to mingle with. They called the shots. Classic plutocracy.

            “Fascism” was defined by Mussolini (who coined the term) as a merger of business and government interests. Yeah, that is Texas to a T.

            Rick: I also have doubts you ever lived there.

            It’s been a long time. Pecan Valley–a sweet course, that had seen better days (it was the site of the 50th PGA; they had a plaque where Arnie hit a famous 2-iron)–used to have a deal where you could play all the golf you wanted on a month-to-month basis for $40, on the AMEX card. I’d go into work early, blow out at about 4, and get 18 in in the summer, as no one else wanted to play in 95-degree heat.

            I recently learned of its demise. 🙁

          • Rick J Black, Sr.

            I withdraw my comment about you living there. Howerver, Fascism is in the eye of the beholder. Since that is based on perception, and influenced by bias, the facts do not support your supposition. It could be said then that Obama Administration is Fascist. But, it could be argued that it is not according to what one believes Fascism is , again, not based on fact.

          • Dissenter13a

            I define fascism in the way that Mussolini did; however, Lawrence Britt studied fascist regimes, isolating elements common to all regimes generally said to qualify. http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/fasci14chars.html If defined in that manner, America is a fascist plutocracy, and Texas, even moreso.

          • Rick J Black, Sr.

            If that is how you feel, perhaps the time has come for you to seek living accommodations in another country more to your liking. You are obviously not an American. Least not one imbued with the concepts brought forth by the Founding Fathers in the Constitution. The belief in those concepts are what defines who an American is.

          • Dissenter13a

            My view of what patriotism is was expressed succinctly by Mark Twain: “Loyalty to the country always. Loyalty to the government when it deserves it.” My government has been taken over by fascists; am I to stand by and do nothing?

            I am intimately familiar with the writings of the Framers, and based on that knowledge, can say that you don’t have the first [very strong expletive deleted] clue as to what you are talking about. Thomas Jefferson advocated a geometrically progressive tax on wealth in a letter to James Madison, http://www.let.rug.nl/usa/presidents/thomas-jefferson/letters-of-thomas-jefferson/jefl41.php, Alexander Hamilton devised the protectionist trade policy that made us an industrial powerhouse, http://www.thomhartmann.com/blog/2008/12/alexander-hamilton, and Thomas Paine was the grandfather of Social Security. http://www.thomas-paine-friends.org/paine-thomas_agrarian-justice-1795-01.html

            The Framers were remarkably progressive and populist for their day.

        • medivac

          And that is a negative ???

        • Deborah G

          They don’t like queers there sorry

      • sanman99

        Let him stay. He can pay his way through the sanctuary state.

    • sanman99

      GOOD I guess you will be staying in CA!!!!

    • SuperDave2

      5 years ago, I shut down my 4 businesses & fled to Texas, my homestate. Living in Texas is really living. Living in Kalifornia was merely existing. I would rather live free, than in shackles as I was in Kalifornia.

    • medivac

      More dope peddlers !!

    • Ddenney1

      No state income tax better home values and of course you have the right to stay the hell out!

    • southern patriot

      When you consider that gas prices in Kalifornia, are about a $1.00 higher, and the price of a house is 3 to 4 times that of a similar house in Texas, and the fact that you pay a state income tax on that $44,980. Texas has blown your scoreboard completely out of the park. Good riddance commie

    • Deborah G

      With a 39% higher cost of living so the money you have goes a whole lot further

    • MontieR

      IF you can do the math, $41.000 goes further when the cost of living is half that of Commifornia. So no score there, cali ZERO, Texas 200.

    • Renellin

      To consider that a win for Cal, you must do math the liberal way. Kind of like 38% of working age citizens without a job, yet you claim 6% and change unemployment.

      • Dissenter13a

        I do my math the real way: “Where would you prefer to live?”

        I’ve lived in the nicest part of Texas (north of San Antonio), and the nicest parts of Cali (NB, Marin). Sure, it is cheaper to live next to a toxic waste dump. But would you really want to?

        Sure, you can make more in Houston. But to some of us, quality of life matters.

        • Jeff Horton

          Marin is a sih? hole too. I live in Paso Robles Marin the traffic is crap. It is cold most of the time. I also bet your a public servant like a teacher. Or some other job where you get a pension when you retire. Too bad the money won’t be there when you do. Marin is very liberal area no wonder you like it so you can suck the tit of the working man.

          • Dissenter13a

            You don’t know Houston. As we used to say, “it takes three hours to get to Houston and three hours to get anywhere in Houston.” I took the ferry in from Larkspur, which was about the best commute on the planet. Bay Area traffic wasn’t too bad, especially if you had a professional gig downtown.

        • Renellin

          Thanks for the input. I have lived in Nevada, which I felt was next to the toxic waste dump that is Cali. But that’s just me. When I go I will not be dependent so much on wages. Perhaps a part time job. To keep busy. I’m looking for quality of life.

    • Jeff Horton

      But that 41,471 goes farther in Texas than 44,980 goes in California. In fact I bet that 41,471 would be like getting paid 50,000 here in California. Look at the boxes that we pay over 350,000 for they need to be torn down. I bet for 350,000 you get much more of a house. If I could take the climate from here and the quakes instead of tornados I’d move very soon.

      • Dissenter13a

        You pay for the quality of living. Employers offered a lot less in San Diego because it is such a great place to live. You could demand top dollar in L.A., but it has its drawbacks. Twenty-five years ago, $100K went a long way in Orange County.

        If Texas had Cali’s climate, amenities, and beauty, it would be a much nicer place to live. But as I said elsewhere, living near a toxic waste dump is going to be cheaper.

        • Jeff Horton

          And you don’t think there are many toxic dumps here in CA. Do you want to buy a bridge. By the way 25 yrs ago 100K would buy a crap house there. Maybe 30 to 40 yrs ago. 30 yrs ago I paid 85K for a 1200 sq ft house here. Now it is over 350K And to replace it it would still be 350K even in Bakersfield.

    • jessica22

      You’ve given us per capita income… Now give us cost of living and I think you’ll see it’s a lot more desirable to live in Texas… Income minus cost of living means it’s less expensive to live in Texas…

      • Dissenter13a

        If you want to live next door to a toxic waste dump, your cost of housing will be lower. People are willing to take less money in exchange for the better quality of life.

  • Dissenter13a

    Of course, global warming will make Texas even less livable than it is now. And no, I have no desire to return to that hole.

    • medivac

      Got busted for dope did ya’ ??

      • Jeff Horton

        LOL

    • Renellin

      Right. Keep repeating that to yourself, so you never mess up and accidentally go there.

    • Deborah G

      Bye Bye

  • nimbii

    Texas better be careful bringing in a bunch of corporate liberals. They my wind up being the victims of their own success and Texas goes blue.

    • David in Dallas

      That is a very real fear we have here in Texas. We try to convince Californians who are considering a move to here that we are unrepentant Neanderthals with no couth so they will stay where they are. I’m sure that the jobs that move here from California can be filled by capable Texans. Nice weather (true) is the only thing positive about California (unless you are into surfing).

      • Jeff Horton

        You can tell them that here we carry guns it might be unsafe here for your family. In fact my kids play with toy guns every day.

      • nimbii

        With house-proud home values in Cal much higher, they salivate at buying up anywhere else in the US except Manhattan maybe.

    • Jeff Horton

      It won’t be the workers but their kids. That have made it to middle school, in California’s school system. And can relate to socialism. Then they run for office in your City or State.

  • Traveller62

    AMEN!!!!!

  • Rick J Black, Sr.

    California has yet to learn that the higher the taxes, the more diminishing the returns are. Companies and people are more apt to leave for better economic opportunities than stay there and battle the two headed dragon of high taxes and high cost of living. And because it is California, home of the Marxist ideology, freedom and liberty become another major factor as people flee to the Red states.

    • Dissenter13a

      A race to the bottom … and as a former resident, I can attest that Texas IS the bottom.

      • Rick J Black, Sr.

        I see it as a race to the top and freedom for the masses in Texas. Reason California is heading down is due to all the tenets of Marxism being implemented there. Capitalism flourishes in Texas while California looks upon it as an evil. Btw, many former residents of Texas would heartily disagree with you, my little brother for one.

      • hmmathis

        Likely that most Texans who know you would say, “Good riddance!”

      • SATCitizen

        Glad Texas spit you out. . .the state doesn’t need bad apples.

      • medivac

        Who ran you out of Texas ????

        • SuperDave2

          Whoever it was……..deserves a medal!

        • Deborah G

          Probably someone who recognised him as a liberal moron. The two best Medical facilities in the World are there, more and more big companies there. If that’s the bottom for a lib then go to Califonication.

        • PaulS47

          Occidental Petroleum, after decades in Southern California, is racing to the bottom by relocating to Houston? Apple Computer, born in California, built their new facility in Texas and Toyota is moving divisions to Texas in a race to the bottom?

          This is why debate with the Left is a waste of time and energy.

          • Dissenter13a

            Yup. Lower wages. Wage arbitrage. Same reason that Apple shipped jobs to Foxconn.

        • Dissenter13a

          My wife. 🙂 She hated the place with a passion defying description.

      • Jeff Horton

        Move here to California and your tune will change. I stay here because of the weather. I may move when wife retires

        • Dissenter13a

          As I’ve said elsewhere, I lived in both the Bay and SoCal and also, deep in the heart of Texas (my wife insists to this day that Texas has no heart). I had a great gig in Texas, so it is not an animus born of that.

          • Jeff Horton

            Both SoCal and the Bay area are very liberal areas. With so many social problems that no matter how much money, we the people in the other parts of California. It will never get fixed. Take the Min wage increase for example aimed at helping the poor. Well it will hurt the poor a lot more. I learned this in the 70’s. I got a raise because of the min wage increase. Well prices went up so fast I actually went backwards in buying power. These Min wage increases are a political move to get votes. And with in six months these people working for min wage will not be able to buy what they can afford today. Been there done that. After that I learned the scams the liberals pull on the people.

          • Dissenter13a

            I’d refer you to Adam Smith, but the Right only lionizes him, never bothering to read what he wrote.

            Allowing a business to pay less than subsistence wages is a subsidy to that business; the rest of us eventually pay for it through public assistance. Let’s stop subsidizing WalMart and McDuck’s.

  • Linda Sills

    I have been predicting for some time now, that with these Libtard policies in CA, the state will soon resemble Detroit. The entire state will look like that. And you know what? It will be deserved. I am heading for Indiana as soon as I am able.

    • jessica22

      At least CA has nice weather… there has to be something that keeps them there.

      • SirWilhelm

        Drugs

      • hmmathis

        The place is filling up with illegals, so it must be a slight improvement over where they came from. Likely CA has better welfare–until all of the taxpayers have left the state.

      • SATCitizen

        But with global warming isn’t it getting too hot? What a foolish reason to stay in a destructive, un-American, sanctuary state.

    • Deborah G

      Indian is pretty conservative but very high taxes. We lived there they have state and local plus township taxes.

  • nancy miller

    This is just a replay in California from when Jerry Brown and the Democrats had control before. They are the most destructive bunch that the people could ever have imagined. Yet the dopes voted in the disaster yet again.

    • SATCitizen

      Appropriate. . .dopes = marijuana = more tax revenue. . .perfect solution for the dopes.

  • SATCitizen

    Californication can keep selling pot. . .those tax dollars should save ’em. . .not to mention the soon, if implemented, vehicle mileage tax. But jst remember. . .WE DO NOT WANT YOUR LIBERAL WAY OF THINKING CONTAMINATING OUR STATES!

    • MidnightDStroyer

      It’s become pretty obvious what the Democrat Agenda is…After 50 years of pure Democrat “leadership” in Detroit, they’ve announced that they want the rest of the country (& the world, via the United Nations) to wind up like Detroit.

      These self-labeled Progressives aren’t for any kind of progress…They’re promoting a DEgress back to the Dark Ages.

      • SATCitizen

        Check out if, “Agenda: Grinding America Down” if still available on youtube. . .they definitely are out to destroy. . .they can’t stand the truth or anything of goodness. They want everyone to wallow in their vileness.

    • Jeff Horton

      Well then you should support the few conservatives who choose to stay and fight. You should also support the conservatives whom are true conservatives in this state. Because if you don’t they will move to your state. And soon your state will be no different. Please pay attention to who you elect for school board as that is how the Commies are taking over. It happened here in California started with the kids in school in late 60’s and on. The only way to save our country is to save our schools from these Idiots.

      • SATCitizen

        I support you and those who remain to stay and fight. In my state we have seen the differences the liberal trash has brought in, but it gets taken out. Schools are definitely indoctrination centers, there is no doubt about that. Fight the good fight and know you have support!

        • Jeff Horton

          I feel if we all move away from the Liberal crap there will be no where to move.

          • SATCitizen

            Met a guy this morning from California who moved to my city in the 70’s because if the “1 percenters.” His family moved to Arizona and although they love California, they are sure glad to be gone from the craziness. He was telling me about the high rent in San Francisco because of those getting free commuting w/Google. We may not be able to entirely escape them as they do their best to take over the schools, but we sure as heII can put a stop to their agenda if we band together.

  • Bruce

    Suckerberg should have to pay 99.99999 percent in taxes. What a screaming
    Liberal, and everyone who uses Facebook supports his Liberal agenda.

    • Deborah G

      Facebook is simply a way to get information on you and then go after you with the Democrats to take what you have.

  • davnkatzr

    Hey! Y’all, someone has to pay high taxes to provide all that welfare and support for so many illegal immigrants.

    • Marilyn Z

      Yeah, all y’all need to pay more taxes to support the scofflaws. It is our duty to bust our butts so every poor person in the world can come here and live it up on our dime. Today I am really ticked off with the handicapped parking morons. I am almost 71 and I don’t get handicapped parking yet I saw a young person of a certain race, tall and FAT, wearing platform shoes come out of the store with her groceries in her arms and get into a really nice sporty Mercedes in the closest handicapped spot. I really had to bite my tongue on that one. How in the world do they get those tags? If you can wear those horrid shoes, carry your own groceries, you don’t need a tag. And don’t give me a lecture that all handicaps cannot be seen…I know…if I walk about a mile, my hips start hurting and you can’t see that and the doc says I’m TOO YOUNG and on bad days I shouldn’t go out and that will solve my problem.

      • Jeff Horton

        I’m with you on most of what you say. But you do not know that lady, may have a bad hart or lungs. Some ailment you can’t see. I had a person approach me and say they would like to call the cops. Well after a double lung transplant, Kidney Transplant. And my esophagus removed due to cancer. I told her to call the cops. in fact every time I ran into her shopping I reminded her to call the cops. During that day I was having a severe attack Of gout. Walking was very painful. Get over the parking lot thing most of the time I do not use them but when I’m having issues I will. When you are issued the plackard there is a paper in your wallet to confirm you deserve the spot. The fine is high so GO a head and call the cops. That is my advice, but when your wrong are you going to feel like an A$$.

        • Marilyn Z

          I had NO intention of calling the cops..those are entirely your words.

          If she can carry two armloads of groceries (no cart like I must use) while wearing those precarious shoes…there cannot be much wrong with her.

          • Jeff Horton

            So if you don’t want to fix the problem why are you complaining. I am to the mind if I complain then I must do what it takes to fix the problem. If no one does anything then they are just as much of the problem that the person whom parked there. So in my opinion you shouldn’t complain and the problem will exist for ever. That is the problem with people these days they love to complain but will do nothing to fix the problem. Sorry to be hard on you, So just live with it and don’t worry smile and be happy.

        • Gary

          Well Jeff, I have seen many times people abusing the handicap parking! They may have a handicapped person, in their family, but if the one who is handicapped, is not present, they should not use the privilege! I see it all the time! And I would call the cops, but the sorry a..ssholes would be gone before they got there! YES THE PRIVILEGE IS ABUSED!

          • Jeff Horton

            But I would bet you would include me if you saw me. And if you are so positive Call and see. They will still be there as most of the time they are shopping. Also take down the license plate. And if your really brave ask to see the paper that goes with the placard. If your not brave enough to do this, then don’t complain. I would show that paper to anyone whom asks. I do know it is abused. But how are you going to stop it unless you get involved. I think most would be glad to show you the paper than have you wondering. And by the way the law is written that the owner of the placard is suppose to be there. Or the owner can lose the right to use the placard. Also here in California the unlawful use is a very large fine. I’m just pointing out you can do something, but be nice about it. Don’t start out as an A&&. Like that woman did to me. Then I’ll be a bigger A&& back. All she had to do was ask me and I would have showed her plus educated her on Organ donation. I’m just saying if you don’t try to fix the problem it will continue. So call you never know your city might like the funds. The ticket is more than a speeding ticket.

    • Deborah G

      See Holder forcing school districts to enroll their spawn of course on our proerty tax dollars. These theives are FAST AND FURIOOUS with everyone else’s money. They get huge salaries and money for life so what do they care ?Corrupt. I have decided to work a whole lot less and not fund their system.’m planning on closing up shop and going South where at least they respect the law.

    • slk5

      not to mention all of those taxes leaving!!!

  • Joanne

    Not even close, liberalism is a mental health disorder. Just look at the shape some of these liberal states are in.

    • Gary

      Just look at the condition ALL liberal states are in!

  • Kylene Gould

    I was born and raised in Texas and they don’t have hoards of Anti-Capitalist running around acting like crazed lunatics there…and for as much as people want to make fun of Texans….they are truly polite, nice, people.

    • slk5

      bingo!!!

    • magic1114

      I lived in Dallas for awhile and found the people polite and easy to get along with. I plan on retiring soon and Texas is on my very short list of places to relocate to (from Commiefornia). No, I’m not a unicorn rider; I’m VERY conservative!

      • Jeff Horton

        I’m thinking of Idaho. I have family there since before it was a state.

    • $104618240

      Thinking of relocating to Texas, are there any places/cities to stay away from?

      • GeneP54

        Stay away from the big cities, esp. San Antonio and Austin. A lot of libs there. Houston, too, from what I understand. Dallas is nice, but if you move here, live in the burbs. Dallas proper can be rough depending on where you live. South isn’t as expensive as north (of Dallas) and it really is a quick jaunt from most anywhere TO most anywhere.
        Just know that the mentality overall here is about where you work, what you drive, etc. Be prepared!
        Welcome!

  • slk5

    had california been a video game, it would’ve been game over a long time ago!!!

  • higgy01

    California isn’t the only democrat state that is losing people and business because the administrations are stupid and greedy. I live in Maryland and we’ve had a continuing exodus since O’Malley became governor. A recent poll of Maryland citizens said that 47% of Marylanders indicated they would leave if they could.

    • knight2

      Hi higgy, I wonder how much they pay 13a to troll boards? The liberals and dumocraps will do anything. 13a is living proof. He’s mad at all of us because the best part of them ran down their momma’s leg. Just like The Lying king i mad because he didn’t get his mothers side.

  • ABBAsFernando

    One only has to look to Detroit, MI to know the idiocy of Liberal governance.

  • Lee

    Let’s talk for a second. Too many people talk about illegals getting benefits. While it’s true that some illegals do receive these benefits, the process to get said benefits is quite efficient at weeding those out. Falsified or stolen paperwork may work ,as I’m sure those illegals getting benefits could tell you. I however am a natural born, red blooded American; who received stamps and UI. I have also worked at minimum wage for 16 years paying a maximum amount of taxes while never receive anything from Uncle Sam. When I needed to be able claim, the money was there. Why do so many people complain about the taxes that made it possible for me to be able to make it through a very dark period of time. Yes, if you have more, it is your responsibility AS A HUMAN, to help out your fellow man. Those that don’t feel this way should take a tiny amount of those piles of cash that they worship, buy a gun, and kill themselves. Stop whining about taxes. Get out from behind your desk and contribute to those less fortunate. I’m currently back to work at minimum wage, and am serving at a soup kitchen.
    FYI. I’m not some rainbow loving, hippy. I was born and raised as a strict conservative who was taught to help others.

    • jessica22

      You don’t talk like a “strict conservative”…
      The US government should not be responsible for taking from those who work to give to those who don’t. That’s what churches and non-profits do –
      turn to them for help.

      If a person faces a “very dark period of time” that’s when you turn to family and God and KEEP THE GOVERNMENT OUT OF IT !

      • Dissenter13a

        Problem is, your god is too busy sodomizing young boys on the golf course to help. We set up the welfare state because Christians are Christians, and can’t be counted on to help.

        As far as I am concerned, a starving man can shoot jd and his entire family, if that is what is necessary for him to survive. I would vote to acquit.

    • jd1958

      It’s YOUR responsibility as a RESPONSIBLE HUMAN NOT TO BREAK THE LAW!! Don’t preach to me that I have to support you and your 15 cousins. If you got here illegally, you and all of your relatives OUGHT TO BE DEPORTED.

    • Garwoodv6

      You are overlooking the burdens illegals place on our school systems, hospital systems and medical professionals who cannot and will not refuse services, Law Enforcement, the Court systems, lack of tax revenue (they have to conceal their identity and work for cash). It all adds up to a gigantic financial burden shouldered by the legitimate citizens, taxpayers, and insured.

    • Jeff Horton

      Lee you may not understand this. But many Legal immigrants, claim to be illegal. Even when they have insurance. Here is their reasoning. One of my customers a local farmer. Asked his workers why they didn’t use their insurance. Their answer makes economic sense. Their answer was. “If we use the insurance we have to reach a deductible. Then there is a copay. If we go to emergency room and state we are illegal all our care is free.”

  • jd1958

    So with businesses leaving Kooky California; What the state government to do? After all they have all those ILLEGALS to support!! I know EXACTLY what they’ll do. RAISE MORE TAXES!!!!!! Unfortunately many will flee and bring their whacked ideas to other states.

  • Gary

    Even though, these people fleeing Mexifornia, are sick of big government, they are still far to the left of what most Texans are! We do not need these mucking forons invading our state! If they try to turn the state blue, we will be forced to eliminate them!

    • Garwoodv6

      Amen!
      They’ve already done damage here in Texas…
      It is up to us Texans to curb their stupidity when they migrate- er, invade Texas like they have. Then it is up to us Texans to show them the errors of their ways -the reasons Texas is doing well and they came here.

      “We don’t care HOW YOU did it up there” is what they need to learn. They are HERE now, and this is HOW WE DO IT. They need to get over themselves and learn something new for a change!

  • NotYour UsualPolitics

    Because Toyota leaves is proof that Texas is better than California is like saying Yellow is better than green. One company does not make or break a state. Also Texas supposed job growth is based off low wage jobs that can’t support a family. Texas is number one on a lot of things as an example let’s take a look at what Texas does so well, especially under Rick Perry’s leadership.
    A $27 billion dollar budget deficit
    Texas ranks #4 in population living below the poverty line (17.2 %).
    Worst environmental record in the United States
    Ranks #1 in illiteracy
    Ranks #1 on the poorest gun regulations in the US and highest per capita gun murder rates in the US (The Brady campaign gives Texas a score of 6 out of 100 possible points.)
    Ranks #1 in the lowest high school graduation rate
    Ranks #1 with the highest interest rates “pay day” companies can charge
    Ranks #1 in those making below minimum wage
    Ranks # 1 (26.5%) who lack health insurance
    Ranks # 1 (20.3%) of children who lack health insurance
    Ranks # 1 in the highest per capita executions in the world
    Ranks #50 in $ spent for Medicaid for the poor and children
    Ranks 50th ( dead last ) in $ spent on its citizens
    Ranks #2 in the rate of food insecure children.
    Ranks 49th ( the 2nd lowest ) in Medicaid $ given to nursing homes
    Ranks #1 in teen repeat births
    Ranks #4 in teen pregnancy rate
    Ranks #3 in teen birth rate
    Ranks #2 with the highest home insurance rates
    Ranks 49th in $ funded for the mentally ill
    Ranks #1 with the highest overall pollution rate
    Ranks #4 in adults under correctional control
    Ranks #1 in adults under probation
    Yep Texas beats most states at a number of things, mostly bad things though. Yee Haa pardner Yee HAA!!!!

    • Dissenter13a

      You have to understand that these people think that those are GOOD things.

      • NotYour UsualPolitics

        Oh if that’s the case my bad………lol

      • Gary

        You, lady, are a mucking foron!

      • Gary

        Just keep your useless a..sss where you are! And do not come to Texas! Idiot liberal piece of s…it!

        • Dissenter13a

          Only time I do is to change planes on the way to the Caymans. I don’t venture there willingly.

          • Jeff Horton

            I’m sure since you state your so smart you could find another way.

          • Dissenter13a

            Why should I inconvenience myself unduly?

          • Jeff Horton

            Lets see, BECAUSE YOUR STUPID!

          • Dissenter13a

            It is presumptively unwise to call others “stupid” when you don’t know the difference between “your” and “you’re.”

          • Jeff Horton

            Here is the problem with you people whom are educated. First I do know the difference. And you liberals think an education makes you smart. So you attack people for a typo for example. There are plenty of people who are uneducated but very intelligent ( Smart). Which the left seems to ignore. In fact some people are so educated that all they know is in a book. I’ll give you a few simple examples from my Neighbor whom is a Doctor. I hope my typing, spelling and grammar. is good enough that your educated brain is smart enough to figure out the difference. I’ll take a my neighbor a doctor who lived next to me, whom was educated. Smart I’m not sure see what you think. I’ll use several examples of our time together. So you will under stand the difference between Smart and educated. This Dr and I were building a fence between our houses. I had a 12 inch auger to dig a hole for a 4×4. That was for the fence post. We had marked where to drill the holes with ribbon and nails. The DR didn’t like the placement of the marker, is was off an inch. He had to move it before I drilled the hole. Here is where your Intelligence comes in, Was it necessary to move the marker? I guess he was right he has the education and Dr I only had two yrs of JC. Illustration number 2. Building the fence the dirt was clay and while drilling the hole. The dirt became fine like sand. We had a post hole digger to remove the loose dirt. The loose dirt fell through the bottom of the digger. I told him I wanted to use some water, and put it in the hole. He said I don’t like that Idea. I asked why. his answer to me was, “where is the water going to go.” I guess he was right he was an educated man, and a Dr who could spell. So you tell me where the water was going to go. He had an electrical problem I fixed the wiring for him. Last one I came home from vacation. His family was standing in my front yard. I asked why? he told me there was a skunk in his garage. It was day time, I told him it could have rabies. The skunk entered the garage during the day. I said “I hope you didn’t call animal control”. He said yes he did. My reaction was oh crap. He asked why? I told him “they will shoot it in your garage! an it is out by the bedroom window. He asked what I would have done. I said I would have gotten out my shotgun. Put it on the ground. And had a coke and waited. When the skunk came out, I would follow it to where it was safe and shoot it. When the Animal control showed up, they did not get the gun out. He said “see they are not going to shoot it”. I said wait it isn’t over. After it was shot and found to have rabies, three weeks later his garage quit smelling.

            But he is an Educated Dr! How do I know that! He told me was I was Smart. Even if my grammar and spelling was off. But my spelling grammar should be good! I was taught by liberal education system that kept passing me to the next grade. My education was by Union teachers here in California. And union teachers are the best! So I ask, were you smart enough to follow my post? Or were you so educated you could not understand it. And to those who read it, and understood. Vote thumbs up, if you couldn’t follow my post, Vote down. Do you understand the difference between Smart and Educated. I think Dissenter13a is a very educated man like my neighbor. He must have went to a good college. All this is true how could it be made up.

          • Dissenter13a

            YOU are the one who accused ME of being “stupid,” genius. If you are not perceptive enough to see the disconnect, you are slow on the uptake.

          • Jeff Horton

            I see you never answered the question if you were smart enough to follow the post. Or so educated that you didn’t understand it.

    • Gary

      Be sure and stay out of Texas, we do not need morons, such as you!

      • NotYour UsualPolitics

        Gary it would seem to me that the Moron’s are in Texas according to the stats. What’s wrong there Gary boy? Can’t you handle the truth? The only place Texas is worth a crap is Austin. Now that’s a great damn city.

        • Gary

          Austin is a hotbed of liberal fools like you! Like I said, keep out!

        • Gary

          Where do you get these “stats” the Huffington post? LOL that is a reliable source!

          • Jeff Horton

            Look where he got the gun stats. the only one he cited.

          • NotYour UsualPolitics

            I love your kill the messenger attitude. Absolutely a sign of ignorance. They didn’t come from Huffpo or any other Liberal cite. They were gathered off of many sources including University studies, Texas’ own Government, The Census, and many other sources. You much like the imbecile Jeff WHOREton, are idiots because you willingly deny facts that don’t fit your preconceived idea’s. You would deny the sun rises in the East and Sets in the West if that information, which is observable, came from anyplace except those you deem fit due to you predisposition to hear and believe things that fit your ideals even if they can be shown as factually wrong.
            It’s really a shame that you’re so paranoid you decide to ignore the reality .

        • Gary

          Oh, by the way, coward, I do have guns and know how to use them, so does my 8 year old grandson! He learned how to use one at the age of 4! You are too scared to even know how to hold one! LOL

        • Gary

          Probably all you hold is a part of a mans anatomy!

    • Gary

      Where do you get these statistics? They are totally wrong! There is not one child(or adult) ever refused medical help! If you can, idiot, site the instance! You can’t, all of your, so called, statistics are wrong! JUST KEEP YOUR SORRY A…SS OUT OF TEXAS AND WE WILL BE FINE! Where do you mucking forons come from?

      • NotYour UsualPolitics

        Actually there are a number of kids who don’t get help Gary. They may get an emergency room visit but there are plenty of uninsured kids without insurance who are doing without treatment for their particular disease
        I could cite more but it sickens me to even do the research. Get off your dead azz and find out for yourself big boy. Your state’s a damn craphole and every statistic I posted is true. I had to do the research because I gave enough of myself to learn the truth. I don’t get my facts from talking head on TV or loudmouths on the radio I do my own homework that’s why I graduated toward the top third of my class when I received my B.A.

        • Jeff Horton

          Are you sure your degree isn’t B.S. No wonder your lost you went to a liberal college thinking that these professors are alway right. Infallible because they instruct. Well there are people who can do. Those that can’t do become teachers. Oh you need to change your ID from
          NotYour UsualPolitics to full of your usual lies. Just like Obama.

          • NotYour UsualPolitics

            Jeffie, I have no doubt you’re a clueless piece of manure but let’s just say you don’t even have an idea where I was educated. For all you know it could have been Brigham Young. But hey keep talking out your azz because your mouth can’t muster the intelligence to respond appropriately.

          • Jeff Horton

            Look how you call names because you can’t defend your lies. Shows I over estimated that you didn’t lie about your degree! Showing you to be a liar, just like your Leader. B.O. I really do not think your educated at all. You just a parrot repeating talking points that are total lies.

          • NotYour UsualPolitics

            First off Jeffy boy is that I only communicate at the same level that is initially presented to me. Since your little buddy Gary wanted to start that and you decided to jump into the fray means you only care that I used names because I sure you didn’t admonish Gary for the same behavior. So you’re a hypocrite, with your kind it’s always a double standard. Secondly I’m only putting forth information I’ve collected from information I believe to be true and correct. I don’t suffer from the mental health problem known as “Projection” wherein an individual or group accuse their debate opponents of the actions and behaviors that you personally hold but cannot bring yourself to admit this bias.
            Jeffy grow up, be a man, and do your own homework. Don’t listen to Am radio snake oil salesman making $400 million a year to keep Americans divided or their brethren, the talking head punditry just because it reinforces what you think. They are paid whores who lie on behalf of the highest bidder.
            Do your own research and try to refute what I posted. I spent a couple of months of my free time to learn these facts I’ve presented and free time is a short commodity for a small business owner with 3 kids and a wife to support.
            Next time look at your peers actions before you denigrate those acts by others.
            If you would have left the debate between Gary and myself you wouldn’t be subjected to name calling. But you also do not have the right to complain about my conduct when you accept from you buddies like Gary.

          • Jeff Horton

            Wa wa wa what a baby. I posted where my information came from. As far as Gary I didn’t pay attention to him very much. As your the Liberal Idiot who is spreading lies. I checked your stats which were wrong. That is the way you communist marxist liberals work. One of my sources was CBS news a liberal Station. I watch both and then research which makes the most sense. You didn’t post your sources why not? By the way I respected you, My name is Jeff. Which is my real name. You hide behind a name that is fake just like you are. Only special people call me jeffy, and your not special. Your an Idiot that spread liberal lies. I suppose you love Obama Care too. Or if you like, the affordable Care Act. To which prices went way up and will continue to increase. Another liberal lie. I admit there are some good things but the bad things are way bad. You see the VA problems Welcome to Government ran health care system. I have preexisting conditions and know many who have them as well. Guess what we had insurance at much less cost. Your Thinking is all F&cked up. Use your Obama care and get your head examined. You need help, because your one of those useful Idiots that Stalin talked of. When not needed Stalin had them killed. Because they were a waste of food.

          • Jeff Horton

            Hey you only proved that your not very smart.

          • NotYour UsualPolitics

            No Jeffy like I said I speak to the level I’m spoken to so you’re now openly admitting your brethren on these threads are’ not very smart since I openly admit to using their style of post to communicate with them.
            I’m sorry you associate yourself with a bunch of dim witted people but hey, what can you do? In your case nothing because you lack the critical thinking skills to advance yourself intellectually. You’re just another member of the idiot class. Better than being a moron or imbecile medically speaking.

          • Jeff Horton

            Hey you liberal Idiot watch your liberals in action. Also your Affordable Health care act Administered by the Liberal covernment will be no better than our Vets get from the VA. Because they will be judged by how they look on paper. Now learn something

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUlq-vcwQac

          • NotYour UsualPolitics

            Youtube is where you go for accurate information? Excuse me for laughing but that’s about the most ridiculous thing I’ve heard someone say. Yeah youtube has so much to offer that’s truthful the should have awards by now in journalism…….oh wait any idiot can post a video on youtube and say whatever the Fck they want. Yeah that’s a trustworthy website if there ever was one. God imbeciles can try a man’s patience.

          • Jeff Horton

            NO I didn’t say that I said listen to this black man. If he had argued on your side you would say look I’m right. You sir do not know your history and how your way of thinking has kept many good people down no matter race. That is the democratic party works keeping people stired up about nothing. By the way The VA scandal is real. And my pointy is how can the government administer the health care of the nation when they can’t take care of our vets in a humane fashion. And there you go you intolerant piece of toilet paper. You can’t have a conversation with out taking anything out of context. Go back to your KKK liberal thinking. Because people like you and your party keep race relations at an all time low. And yes you people think like the pieces of crap you spew. You want to move on to the fake global climate change next. You people on the left are so arrogant you don’t know the truth if it stared you in the face. So ponder this. The solar system and the earths position in it has changed through out time since it was formed. And there is proof. Since you get so much up dated news on NBC. Today they showed where the ice has melted to on a polar cap. I ask why has the ice melted mainly on one side of the polar cap they used in the illustration. A 5th grader that hasn’t been polluted by the warming theory can tell you. The main cause it the tilting of the earth. and the orbit in relation to the sun has changed and it always has. I bet you of the mind like a liberal congressman whom stated he was worried an island would flip over if the population moved to one side. Your still living in a era where the earth is flat and only one thing can change the climate. In the 70’s it was Global cooling in the 90’s and 2000’s it is warming. Since it could not be proved either way now it is change. Which had happened before man existed. You liberals need something to cling to so cling to my dick with your lips. Dumb azz.

          • Jeff Horton

            Oh by the way you closed minded azz. There are many things you can learn on you tube. But your too dumb to know that. I’m not just talking opinion. Liberals think socialism is a good thing. Look up the acronym for Nazi. they are both socialist proponents.

    • msmotown

      A sore liberal! The last info. I read was California was approximately 78 billion in debt with 9.6% unemployment and at least two dozen cities are going bankrupt. Texas is 8,8 billion in excess with 6.4% unemployment! Please, liberals, stay where you are. Don’t move to Texas and ruin it. That happened to Colorado, and it is heading the wrong direction.

      • ColoradoNavyMan

        Yes please no more Ca. Liberals in Colorado, you have ruined this state.

    • Publius40

      You lefties can sure crank out phony statistics and birth certificates, that’s for sure.

      I’ve spent time and traveled within 15 or so other states. The last time my wife and I returned to Texas from a business related stay of 5 months in a blue state my wife had me pull over at the first rest stop after we crossed the Texas state line, and she got out and kissed the ground. I didn’t do that, but I swear the air smelled sweet and I had a good feeling come over me.

      Texas has more freedom, more opportunity, and a deeper respect for the individual Rights of man than anyplace I have ever been.

      I do know we rank #1 in executions. Ain’t it great! You come down here to Texas and kill somebody we’re going to kill you back! Not quick enough though. I’d rather see the rapists, murderers, and child molesters strung up off the light poles down the freeway and left there until they rot and fall. We need to thin that herd.

    • Jeff Horton

      Your gun stats are so wrong. Washington DC is number one by CBS Stats. 24.5 per 100,000. Note to you Washington DC has toughest Gun Regulations Texas didn’t make the top 20. It was 23rd. Why would you use The Brady campaign? they are Bias against any ownership of guns.

      Texas is not the worst in illiteracy California was. According to Wiki Answers.

      Your graduation rate it wrong there are 36 states with worse rates. http://www.governing.com/

      I gave you my sources where are yours. I could do more but I’m sure they are mostly Bull crap

    • rrtrippy

      WOW died in the wool Democrat talking points. Most is BS
      like the Gun crap. Left out of a lot of the other stats is the very high illegal
      alien population that adds to the uninsured, uneducated and low wage workers
      but then that is a liberal program also, right. Personally I am proud that Texas
      actually punishes its murderers, if more states did that; there would be less
      violent crime. But noooo you libs want to disarm the victims to make them more accessible
      to the perps while blaming the tool for the use, right? What an idiot it’s
      amazing to me that you can remember to breath.

      • NotYour UsualPolitics

        Personally I am proud that Texas
        actually punishes its murderers

        Yeah I’m sure you are and it probably doesn’t bother you that it’s been more than proven your state has executed innocent people who were later proven not to have committed the crime thanks to modern and scientific proof that they couldn’t be guilty.

        Glad to know you don’t care about human life, you can quit bitchin’ about abortion now if that’s the case. I mean if you don’t mind some innocent men were executed you can;t be a pro lifer either.

        • rrtrippy

          Such an eloquent vocabulary you have. But it appears that
          you are pulling your facts out of Rachel Meadows’ backside again

          • NotYour UsualPolitics

            I don’t watch TV for news, It;s for the ignorant masses not people seeking truth idiot.

          • rrtrippy

            LOL You are again, Showing that masterful command of the language and those excellent debate skills you have. Just from your comments and your name the odds are 99% that you are a FLAMING liberal. I would bet that you have never missed a single episode of Rachel’s show.

          • NotYour UsualPolitics

            Then you would be losing money you idiot. God you people get something in your small little minds and hold it like the Holy Grail……lol. Tell me from a medical standpoint which category do you fit in? Moron, Imbecile, or Idiot? You obviously fit one of those groups since you talk without knowledge of what you speak.

          • rrtrippy

            I just love when you liberals get ruffled. Out fly the insults, because that is all you have.

          • NotYour UsualPolitics

            You’re a great one to talk. Rather than address the fact that many of your conservative brethren have played the insult game from about my third post, you want to point out when I play their game and shove the B.S. back at them? Well I guess if that’s what makes you feel all special (needs) then be my guest and fail to acknowledge where it originated. Then click your heels 3 times and chant “there’s no place like home” Dorothy.

          • rrtrippy

            Two days later and his panty’s are still in a bunch. Grow up, get a life.

          • NotYour UsualPolitics

            No, see unlike you I don’t have all day and a Government check coming in so I can spend my days responding to welfare recipients like yourself. I mean come on somebody has to work to pay for you to sit on your azz and play like you actually contribute to this society. Damn if you just haven’t exposed yourself has a free loader!

          • rrtrippy

            My guess is you live in your parent’s basement and wear
            your sister’s clothes. Grow up; get a job, and then comment.

          • CherokeeDan

            Spoken like one of Lenins’ devoted disciples. Of course, such an erudite fellow (lady?) as yourself must know the term he used for for his devoted followers. Hint: it ends with “idiots”.

          • NotYour UsualPolitics

            If you think television has anything to offer from a journalistic standpoint then you are most assuredly and idiot.

        • jessica22

          You are a liberal…
          So are you pro-life or pro-abortion?
          You know… since sanctity of life is
          apparently so important to you…

          • NotYour UsualPolitics

            The only “sanctity of Life” I’ll adhere to is those who are actually alive and not a potential human being. I mean for Christ’s sake what is it with you people who love killing a human as long as you think they deserve it? I thought the book said “Judge Not Lest Ye Be Judged”. There is more than enough evidence that the Capital Punishment system kills innocent people at a 4 percent rate. Using figures from the most recent year (2013) we had 3008 people nationally which means 123 of those people are innocent of the crime they are accused of.
            Now a cell cluster or zygote is only a potential human being and abortion is only one way in which these cell clusters are eliminated from their host (They parasitical in nature since they feed off the host body). Miscarriage, a woman who is pregnant and dies of an accident or natural causes also kills this zygote. So who the hell are you or anyone else to say what another chooses to do with their own body?
            Tell me how the hell someone else’s pregnancy is in any way your god darned business. Just explain why the hell you are so involved with another person you don’t even know and tell me what gives you any right whatsoever to dictate what the do with their own body.
            You really can’t make an honest claim that their business is your business. It’s between them, their family, their doctor, and if they believe, their God.

          • jessica22

            My goodness… Don’t you articulate succinctly!

            Since abortion is legal in this country and I am law-abiding, there’s not much I can do to protect that unborn “zygote” except voice my opinion.

            You are voraciously committed to defending abortion and pretend you actually care about another’s life. What a joke!

            Not that it matters, but I too am against capital punishment.
            (If I believed it was a detriment to crime, I might feel differently). I do respect the sanctity of life.

            So tell me… are you an atheist quoting Scripture or just a bewildered leftie trying to validate a shallow argument?

          • NotYour UsualPolitics

            A mere Atheist who grew up in a Catholic household and went through all the rituals of Catholicism growing up. Became an agnostic for a bit and finally realized I neither believed in a God or the books supposedly authored by him when I discovered the history of the New Testament in particular.
            I say their God only because many people seem to believe there is one so statistically speaking the odds are the woman would believe in this higher power.

        • CherokeeDan

          There is evidence that “suggests” that a Texas man who was executed “may” have been innocent…not “more than proven”. You liberals need to understand that, just because you say it and desperately want it to be true, it might not be. IF an innocent was executed, that is awful but is no reason to scrap the death penalty. More care must be taken that guilt has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt. What IS certain is that every unborn baby that is butchered is completely innocent. I would have hoped that we had decided, 70 years ago, that mass killing of innocent humans for no better reason than that they are inconvenient, is a bad thing. Apparently, leftist now are no different than leftists then.

          • NotYour UsualPolitics

            We disagree over what a baby is. A baby is a human being who has been delivered. Until it’s delivered it’s only potentially a baby. I also come back to the question what the hell makes it your business what another human being does with their body. The answer should be none but like a true Rethuglican you want to stick your noses into everyone else’s lives as you also claim to want the Government out of people’s lives. You people just don’t know what you want evidently.

    • M. Faze

      So! What’s your point? Texas is a BORDER STATE. I wonder why they are Number one in these Categories? Is it because they’re Number one in “ILLEGAL ALIENS?” People who won’t Assimilate to OUR CULTURE? Those “ILLEGAL ALIENS” bring the Violence from, South of the Border to OURS? Is it because that now we have an Administration (Meaning, Obonzo The Chump Chimp) that supports race Baiting? Is it because the Sheila Jackson Lee is a Great example (or in other words, a Poster Child) of Stupidity? Is it because that Teens who don’t have any incentive to grow Educationally? Is it because most “ILLEGAL ALIENS” just cross the border because we have a Few Liberal Die Hearts who feel they we should PAY for the “WORLD” in Health Care?

      As for being Number one in Executions in the Nation, I believe that everyone that went before the Executioner, was not “INNOCENT”, It should be used more often in Capital Cases. As a Former Police Officer and seeing my Fellow Officers die in the office of their duty, It does not bother me one bit to see a “CONVICTED KILLER” die for his CRIMES. Heck, I would volunteer to pull the plug. I have seen death in the Prison as well (Because I was a Correctional Officer too). Yeah, I have seen Inmates Kill one another over “STUPID THINGS”. And does that inmate who kills another inmate deserve to Die? Absolutely!

      What does California Rank in those same Categories? What are the Tax Rates in California that make these Companies LEAVE? New York has the same Problem of Loosing Companies to TAX RATES> Colorado and New York are Loosing Companies because of their Stance on the 2nd Amendment. Most are going to Texas because they believe (as I do) “PROTECTING” the 2nd Amendment.

      So, as you say, YEE HAA Partner. I will take the Freedoms we enjoy rather than being TAXED to death and Limited Freedom and having the Government tell me how to live any day.

      Get the Government out of my Bedroom, Kitchen, and other aspects of my life!

      • NotYour UsualPolitics

        First off California is a border state so that already makes your argument stupid. Then you have the guts to say every one who was executed was guilty after the facts have shown Texas has killed people who were later shown to be innocent thanks to new criminology techniques like DNA? If that’s the case you I won’t bother rebutting an idiot, imbecile, or moron. I use all 3 medical definitions because I’m not quite sure how low your IQ actually is, just that it’s obviously low.

        • rrtrippy

          There is a reason California is #1 in unemployment, crime,
          taxes, cost of living, abandoned houses and of course the state has been bankrupt for at least 10 years. But thank you for making our points for us.

        • M. Faze

          Wow! You have seen that California is a BORDER STATE, Good!, you do have an Education, I think you said a BA? BULLS*** Arts? Wow, I am impressed! Again, You use big INTOLERANT WORDS like MORON, Idiot, and Imbecile. Wow, Again, I am Impressed. It funny how you LIBERALS can Use Intolerant Words to make yourself feel “SMART?”. Not, it just made you look twice the opposite.

          So what about DNA, if the CONVICT is GUILTY, all the DNA in the world would not stop him from doing the crime.

          You can use all the Medical terms you want because I am quite knowledgeable when it comes to the medical field.

          Just a note, when you point your Finger at anyone and use your Liberal “INTOLERANT” WORDS, remember you are actually pointing 3 fingers back at yourself.

          So you are actually loosing the argument.

          BYE!!! I won’t be reading or answering your next message, so Don’t bother writing anything, it will be a waste of your time. But I bet you are going to write something anyway, just to show your stupidity. I will see the Answer in my e-mail box and just laugh at you and know everyone on here will do the same. You will be a laughing stock on this site. So ask yourself, Am I going to write or play it safe and not answer. I am betting you will answer LAUGHING OUT LOUD!

          • Michael Skok

            the word is “losing” not “loosing” if I may correct you guys.

          • M. Faze

            I always thought that using 2 Os made the the Right sound. I checked on the word in the Dictionary, and you are correct in that Spelling with one O.

            I stand Corrected, and Thank YOU!!

          • David in Dallas

            There is a word “loosing” but the “s” is a soft “s”, not a hard one like “z”. It has essentially the same meaning as “loosening”–to free up, unbind.

          • M. Faze

            Thank You David for that. I guess it is in how you use it in the Sentence, Correct? I am open to learn something new every day. You keep your mind going even until death. In my family, we get dementia. And I believe that if you do things to keep your mind in GEAR, you won’t lose any GEARS in your mind. Thank You again David!

          • Jeff Horton

            Funny how the Liberals say Conservatives are intolerant. Yet they are the first to call people names. They love to spend other peoples money. Their Donations are far less to charitable occasions, or groups. their thinking is I pay my taxes so I don’t need to send any organizations money. They think the government can make better decisions with their Tax money so they do not donate much to charities. When an Idiot speaks they have to try to act like they are smarter by attacking a persons I.Q. I lived next door to a doctor and he had no common sense. I’m sure this liberal is the same way. We had loose dirt in a hole and had a post hole digger to remove the dirt. well the dirt would not stay in the digger to remove it. I said we need water to get the dirt out. This liberal Doctor actually said he didn’t like the idea, I asked why and he said “where will the water go”. This liberal idiot I’m sure he can’t answer that question either. Some people are over educated for their own good and he is one. Has no common sense.

          • M. Faze

            You are absolutely right.

          • M. Faze

            Guess what, He wrote back anyway, LOL!

          • Jeff Horton

            I know he is stupid like I said.

        • http://www.downtoearththinking.com/ Down to Earth Thinking

          Kawleefornya has been completely destroyed by illegal aliens. and of course dem state reps. Trying to defend insanity is an uphill battle? but that state is quite insane so maybe it fits there? I was born in Kawleefornya and left many years ago . You can have my share for free ! Good luck with your logic.

          • Jeff Horton

            Yep I live here we are a one party state. And if Pelosi and the other liberals have it their way the country will be that way. One reason they want our guns. Because they already will control our health care. Soon it will be the food the only thing in the liberals way is the people who have fire arms.

          • http://www.downtoearththinking.com/ Down to Earth Thinking

            Actually Jeff they can and will be defeated , even in Kawleefornya ? Why you ask ? Same reason as Obamacare will be tossed eventually. Kawleefornya is and has been BK for years. And they simply use massive illusions to keep it all going just like the feds? But remember , illusions can only be maintained and kept alive as long as the people do not realize they are illusions? And economic forces will bring Kawleefornya and our fed gov to their knees . It simply has not happened yet , but it will. All the pieces of that puzzle are already in place and all we need to tip it all over is an outlier event ? Haven’t you already wondered how long can all,m the spending and give aways go on ? Of course you have. But you have been mesmerized into thinking it can go on indefinitely ? But it can’t, and the control freaks know that also. There are many outlier events out ther3e and again it is only a matter of when , not if. And on the day all the freebies are not available, do you suppose all the illegals and drug addicts and gangbangers will play nice ? i DON’T. Something to ponder and Good on Ya !

    • eddyjames

      Who cares where the Brady bunch ranks Texas. All that means as the state of Texas doesn’t infringe on citizens second amendment rights, which is a good thing. All that teen pregnancy rates tell you is that the gay agenda hasn’t caught on there.

      • NotYour UsualPolitics

        No all the teen pregnancy shows is that abstinence only education doesn’t work and we can speculate as to who the fathers are. Are they in the same age group or do you have a state full of statutory rapists and pedophiles. Most importantly who foots the bill for these out of wed lock kids? The taxpayer and that doesn’t bother. What does is that most of those states who whine about big Government are taking back a higher gains on their Federal Taxes. Blue states send more dollars into the Federal trough than they get back because they’re supporting States like Texas. The most recent state-by-state analysis of federal tax burdens and spending by the Washington-based Tax Foundation, a business-backed tax policy group. It covers the 25-year period between 1981 and 2005.According to the analysis, Texans paid about $147 billion in federal taxes in 2005 while the state received $149 billion in federal spending. In other words without the blue States Texas wouldn’t have had $2 billion more than it paid in Federal Taxes. So basically the Blue States are supporting those Teen Pregnancies you’re so proud of. That said I’ve traveled to Texas several times since 1986 and I can say every major city from Houston to Dallas to Fort Worth etc all have a large gay population so you’re even wrong on that point. You are an idiot for making that ridiculous post I just responded to.

        • Progressive Republican

          I’d say that you;re far too kind, but with “idiot” being on the bottom end of the intelligence scale you can’t go lower. At least not maintaining the comparison with humans anyways…

        • Jeff Horton

          The state may have received 2 billion more. than they paid. But the feds told them where to spend the money lets be honest about that. The fed gives money back with strings attached. If the state kept the 147 billion the local government knows where the money can be best used. Common sense those that are in the position to see what is happening can better distribute the funds. The feds only purpose is to protect the borders and the american people. But the government has grown so much it is out of control. I suggest you listen to the song by Steppin Wolf It is called Monster and in that song you will learn much of what is happening.

          • NotYour UsualPolitics

            You just keep dreaming that dream. You simply aren’t able to be truthful with yourself about how much Federal welfare your state receives. Especially in Corporate welfare. Your oil barons rank in record profits yet still receive Federal money for exploration. Nice scam but the rest of the country is turned off by the graft that makes companies with billions in profit still able to receive billions in tax payer funds.
            You worry about the blacks and hispanics getting an average of $9K in welfare benefits but then become as quiet as a church mouse when it comes to big oil, big agriculture and big pharma getting billions of your tax dollars as well as the rest of your fellow Tax Paying Americans. Your priorities are skewered so far to the right you must walk in a circle

    • Jeff Horton

      Texas ranks number one in adults under probation. Ranks number 4 under correctional control. That tells me they don’t put up with crap. There theory do the crime do the time. Number two in Home insurance rates. What the hell they have many more floods and tornados than most places. And their record on green well I’ll tell you if your talking Climate change due to man kind. Mad has very little effect most effect comes from the Solar system. How the earth’s orbit around the sun changes, The tilt changes. All scientifically proven with better science than AL Gore has. In fact the Green movement has been caught doctoring results so they get paid grants. It is all a one world agenda coming to a country near you. Prove me wrong with Science that the solar system has nothing to do with Climate change. I can knock that lie off your block.

      • NotYour UsualPolitics

        What it should tell you (even the dim witted should know this) that you’re spending far more to house non violent offenders as well as low level drug dealers than is practical or reasonable. The U.S. a so called free society puts more people behind bars than the communists do. Any one who has ever run a business knows you cannot be investing you tax dollars properly when many of your offenders are would be served better through deferral programs as many other states with similar problems have done. Housing an inmate involves a number of things that are supposed to be looked at. These expenses range from security, health care, operations, rehabilitation and administration. Annually looking at all that listed above the total expenditure would be $48,000 dollars security and health covering the biggest percentage. Wow what a good investment!!
        You could have used drug rehabilitation programs, psychological treatments and other means of lowering that cost. I mean seriously a lifer in your system can cost as much as $1.6 million just to house an offender. No wonder you’re clueless you just don’t understand the economics of incarceration. Next time do some freaking research before you babble.

    • MR AR50

      Typical liberal ranting-
      I bet that if you had to repeat those stats from memory, three times in a row, they would be different each time, because you PULLED THEM OUT OF YOUR ASS!

      The stats you made up, I mean quoted, look amazingly like something a person who supports a ‘Nanny State’ might envision. I bet you have tons of wonderful statistics to make up, I mean cite, about California. Let’s just pick one-
      Gun Control- California has some of the most stringent firearms regulations in the country. Surely their major cities are safer than those in Texas.
      Fact- Los Angeles, with it’s incredibly restrictive firearms laws, has more murders in one month than Dallas, Fort Worth combined, in the same time frame.
      BTW, California, including Los Angeles, is continually ranked high (B+/A-) by the Brady Bunch for their restrictive firearms laws. I guess they only give rankings based on effort, and not results.

      • David in Dallas

        I consider a bad report by the Brady Bunch as a plus. Texas gun laws are not as good as I’d like them to be, but we do keep working on it. Some of them date back to the Reconstruction days.

        • moparfan54

          What laws do you want that we dont have now? If you read the constitution, our gun laws are more restrictive than they should be. Remember the only people that follow gun laws are honest people that are less likely to use a gun on someone than it is to die in a car accident.

          • David in Dallas

            I’m not asking for more laws–I’d like the ones we have to be less restrictive. Although I’m not a particular fan of Open Carry, I think it is ridiculous that it is illegal in Texas. I’d also approve of a change in concealed carry to the “Constitutional Carry” that Vermont, Alaska, and one other state have (no permit needed).

          • moparfan54

            I am not in favor of open carry, only because it is like being in Iraq, the good guys look just like the bad guys, and I understand that making the average unarmed citizen nervous. I live in Dallas also.

          • David in Dallas

            GeneP54 and moparfan54, one real benefit of allowing Open Carry is that it eliminates a charge of “brandishing” if one accidentally flashes the gun while moving around (coat tail flies up, etc.)

          • GeneP54

            Acutally, I think it is legal to open carry a long gun, just not a hand gun. However, if the bill introduced late last session is brought up again, we may all be able to open carry whatever we wish. Smells like heaven!
            One purpose of open carry, moparfan54, is so that you don’t know who the bad guys are. It keeps the bad guys guessing!

        • MR AR50

          Amen, my friend. I live in Colorado, and lately we’ve had quite a fight on our hands, trying to get rid of the politicians who’ve passed some of the gun control laws in this state. We have tons of liberal wackos moving here from Kalifornia every day. If it gets much worse, my daughter and I may just pack up and move to Texas.

          • David in Dallas

            I’m sure you’d be welcome here. Anyone who complains about the California Liberals moving in would probably fit it just fine here.

      • NotYour UsualPolitics

        Well if you Fockers would stop straw buyers from coming into your state and carting away several hundred of firearms per person every year I bet those cities would see a definitive drop in their murder and gun related deaths as well as robberies, Home Invasions etc.

    • lawrence

      please supply your sources for your ranks. the looney left will always make charges but routinely fail to show sources. can you?

      • GeneP54

        Sources are above. Will that do?

        • David in Dallas

          Gene, he was responding to the same person you were.

          • GeneP54

            Thank you. I’m sorry. I misunderstood.

      • NotYour UsualPolitics

        Wow just a couple of posts above you I have links and somehow you missed that? Not really adept at this internet thing there are you Larry?

    • GeneP54

      I have no idea where you got your numbers, but Texas will have about $8 Billion in its rainy day fund at the end of the 2014 fiscal year. Cali has the worst environmental record, and a lot of your numbers are those spewed by the dems and aren’t per capita or looking at any other outside numbers, such as actual citizens vs. illegals.
      Hogwash!

      • GeneP54

        Here’s on e source on the rainy day fund and you can track it back from there:

        http://www.texastribune.org/2013/12/12/comptroller-texas-surplus-bigger-than-expected/

        Here’s a list from Forbes comparing all of the states in several catagories:

        http://www.forbes.com/best-states-for-business/list/

        Environmentally, Texas is 18th, California is 43rd.
        Economic growth, Texas is #1, California is 36th.

        Keep reading….

      • NotYour UsualPolitics

        Again another no nothing. A rainy day fund politically just means there’s some slush, doesn’t mean a balanced budget without debt it just means there’s an asset counted on the plus column. You can have a rainy day fund at the state level and still be in debt. Freaking try to understand things instead of listening to the echo chamber in your head. Damn I hate stupid!!

        • GeneP54

          I hate it, too. Since I live in Texas, I know what it means here. I don’t see you disputing the real numbers or backing up your ‘facts’ with sources.

          • NotYour UsualPolitics

            Better read all the available info friend, not just the sources you feel agree with you. It’s always important to look at what the other side and other number cruncher’s say. What they say is your state is $27 Billion in the hole friend and there’s no denying that fact

            http://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21572208-unexpected-surplus-points-pitfalls-texan-austerity-too-much-good-thing

            http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/04/us-usa-deficits-states-idUSTRE71314420110204

            http://www.ahisd.net/about/deficit.html

          • GeneP54

            lol Your references are from 2009, 2011, and 2013. If you will look at the budget from the State of Texas, it breaks it down where even you can understand it, and this is from Feb. 2014. It shows the surplus for 2013, and how we got it, and the projected for 2014-2015. It also shows that we had a final surplus of $5.5 Billion at the end of 2013 and projected $2.6 Billion at the end of 2014, for a total of $8.1 Billion. I’ll take that ‘slush’ any day.

            This is from the Texas Taxpayers and Research Assoc.

            http://www.ttara.org/files/document/file-52fb99dc0cdd1.pdf

            So now you have the same info from several sources. Go argue with yourself.

          • NotYour UsualPolitics

            Your link is nothing more than a think tank with an agenda. Hardly a credible source.

          • GeneP54

            lol These numbers are taken directly from the Texas budget. If you think the State of Texas isn’t a ‘credible source’ then you have proven yourself to be more ignorant that I thought. And your sources from 2014 are…where?

          • NotYour UsualPolitics

            Here you go showing your foolishness. How can we have budget number for a year that’s not completed genius? At best there can be projections and they are nothing more than a good guess that we won’t know is right or wrong until the year is complete. Also you’re showing a bit of ignorance in not understanding your source is a think tank with an agenda. It’s most certainly not a state agency it’s a think tank spinning Texas’ financial state into something it’s not. Texas lives on more Federal dollars than you can imagine. Just look at the Fed money you’d lose via seceding from the union. Besides your roads, healthcare etc say goodbye to all the higher paying technical jobs NASA brings your podunk state.

          • rrtrippy

            Are you referring to the Muslim outreach organization
            called NASA? The one that used to plan missions to space, and was headquartered in Houston? But has largely been shut down? Not much future or many jobs in Muslim outreach.

            Keep up with current events please. I know that it’s hard from
            your parents basement, but this news is years old

          • GeneP54

            What part of “taken directly from” do you not understand? As I said, I used that link because I thought even you might be able to understand it. Guess I was wrong about that.
            If you don’t think that states pretty well already have the outcome of their budgets sewn up several years in advance, then again, you know nothing about states budgets.
            The rest of your ramblings have nothing to do with this converstation. But ramble on. I’m sure you think it makes you sound intelligent. And I’m still waiting on your sources…any reliable sources.

        • CherokeeDan

          I hate stupid, too…so why did you change your handle LABobe?

          • NotYour UsualPolitics

            Yet you do something stupid and accuse me of something I have no idea of. I have never changed my name and if you knew how to use disqus you’d know that. What do you know, yet another poster who openly shows their ignorance. Just click on my name you fool and my posting history is available you numb nutz fool……………lol

          • CherokeeDan

            Well, if your not him you’re a big enough idiot to pass for him.

          • NotYour UsualPolitics

            That’s OK you’ve shown everyone that you’re an idiot so coming from you I don’t think the word carries much weight…lol

    • CherokeeDan

      Yep, Texas is so bad and Calif. is so good…that’s why people and businesses are fleeing Taxifornia for that awful Texas!

      • NotYour UsualPolitics

        You say businesses plural when the reality is you’re most of the companies pay such low wages the employees are eligible for Public assistance. So you have a foreign car company, another foreign car maker just decided not not to place a manufacturing plant in Tennessee because there was no union and they have strong unions that help insure quality and communications. You wouldn’t understand the facts of your own country’s union history but our greatest period of growth and the building of a strong middle class came when America had it’s highest number of union members. It might also shock you that the tax rate was also much higher as well. See you won’t hear about that because the talking heads that feed you your daily thoughts don’t want you to know that there’s no correlation between the tax rate and jobs and as important strong unions to negotiate for labor as a group because has an individual you have no power over your wage, no job protections, no job safety, etc. etc etc.
        Face it you don;t know you own country’s history well enough to know that all I’ve posted is factually accurate.

        • CherokeeDan

          You wouldn’t know a fact if it bit you in the ass….come to think of it, from what I’ve read from you and the responses your idiocy generates, you have been bitten again and again. It would require at least some level of intelligence to realize it, though.

          • Jeff Horton

            He doesn’t have any intelligence. The first thing required for that is to have a civil debate. And listen to both sides. I’ll give you an example of their thought. Today I read we paid for a study that in rural texas most people will not ride a bike to work. Can you imagine a bike in the heat and humid weather. Then to have to work next to one of those liberals all day after he sweated all the way to work. There was a response that that is a call for mass transportation. Well here in California there has been a debate. So I asked that person. How in the hell can that be fixed. Here in California some of the most fertile ground in the Us is in the San Joaquin Valley. The air there is the worst in the United States. You know what causes the pollution, farming! So I tell the liberal not to eat. Then they can stay healthy not eating and loosing weight. They say driving cars make dirty water. Well don’t drink the water. They worry about over population don’t have sex with people of the opposite sex. Problem cured no more liberals. Back to mass transportation. SO we take a train to Los Angles Most people can’t afford a Taxi. So they want you to take a bus while in town. But the buses do not cover all locations. So now you have to walk across East L.A. But you can’t carry a gun for protection you have to wait till a cop comes. Again problem solved no more liberals. So maybe their agenda isn’t bad at all. Let them have it. I’ll drive my car, eat the food that the dirty tractor grew, from that dirty dirt! I can even filter my own water.

          • CherokeeDan

            I agree with you. NotYour UsualPolitics is just another Soros paid troll (though he is unusually nasty) who uses the latest talking points supplied him by his leftist handlers.

          • NotYour UsualPolitics

            I’ve posted proven facts, so if you choose to disagree with them that tells us all we need to know about your intelligence or lack thereof.

    • moparfan54

      The fact that you used “The Brady Campaign” as a source of information says a lot about you. I am a 5th generation Texan, and proud of it, Texas has a lot of those number ones, because of liberals like you that did not, and do not enforce our laws. Enjoy life in Cali, it is a beautiful state, it will cost you through the nose to live there.

      • NotYour UsualPolitics

        I don’t live in California, just presented evidence of how wrong the author is. One of the reasons California is hurting is that Arnold was in control for 8 years and he had no business being in politics. He was a great body builder and crappy actor and neither leads to good Governance. BY The way you do know without the Feds giving Texas back more in tax dollars than it sends means Texas is a Blue State welfare state. The taxes of the blue states support your butts. Please secede and take care of yourselves as you claim to.

        • moparfan54

          If only we could, it would be a dream come true. I would love to be the one to block off the valves on the pipelines going North, then you could all enjoy riding your bicycles everywhere you go. I guess Arnold is a powerful as GWB was, he controlled the Cali legislature while he was in office.

          • NotYour UsualPolitics

            Oh yeah I’m certain that would be the very first step in the agenda. Unfortunate;y for your ignorant azz that’s not how it would work. See ALL source of energy are sold on the open market and yours would have to go up for sale quickly just to cover the costs of running your new Government. Seeing how you’d lose all Federal funding including NASA expenditures you’d look a lot like Somalia only whiter. I love the way you think that somehow business would stop doing what it’s there to do and it sure as hell ain’t letting you make the state financially disabled when the only products you can sell are energy related. As a matter of fact let’s see how Toyota would feel about relocating after a dope fiend move like that one.
            Hilarious……….. seriously you should be doing stand up you’re idea’s are so damn funny.

  • Gen. Black Jack Pershing

    You can look at other countries that have failed, Australia raided minimum wage and companies left the country in droves, rather than loose money, eventually the same sociaIist ideas will decimate California.

  • Progressive Republican

    Gee there ol’ Brandon. Lie much?

    Did you even bother to do any investigation as to why Toyota moved out?

    No?

    Well, I’d have to be as big a liar as you to say I’m surprised.

    So, yeah. Gov. Perry runs around spouting his usual brand of b.s.

    Let’s see what Toyota has for an explanation, shall we? Y’know, the whole concept of going to the source?

    Truth to tell (on this site? Gasp!!!) taxes, regulations and business climate appear to have had nothing to do with their move. It was nothing more than a simple matter of geography and a plan for corporate consolidation.

    At least that’s what Jim Lentz, Toyota’s North American chief executive had to say on the matter. “It may seem like a juicy story to have this confrontation between California and Texas, but that was not the case.”

    Toyota left California to move its offices divided among three states, into one headquarters close to the company’s manufacturing base.

    “It doesn’t make sense to have oversight of manufacturing 2,000 miles away from where the cars were made,” Lentz said. “Geography is the reason not to have our headquarters in California.”

    Besides, if Perry’s and Brandon’s lies were valid, that would fail to explain Boeing’s recent announcement that it will move 1,000 engineering jobs from Seattle to Long Beach; partly to tap aerospace talent in the region.

    Or that technology companies continue to grow in the Bay Area and parts of Southern California.

    • CherokeeDan

      If it was just to consolidate their operations, why not move the Texas facilities to Calif.? Hmmm?

      • Progressive Republican

        You and ol’ Brandon both ignored the part where Lentz said, “It doesn’t make sense to have oversight of manufacturing 2,000 miles away from where the cars were made. Geography is the reason not to have our headquarters in California (my emphasis this time).”

        And, as I also stated before, Toyota left California to move its offices, divided among three states, into one headquarters close to the company’s manufacturing base.

        • CherokeeDan

          I don’t think Mr Lenz is going to say anything that might alienate a lot of Toyotas’ potential customers. Think of all the Prius customers in Calf.! Again I ask, if Calif. is such a great place to do business, why not move ALL their facilities there?

        • techguy

          Being 2000 miles away has nothing to do with it. I work at a tech company that has no problem with manufacturing clear across the globe.

          • techguy

            The move is for the money. It’s cheaper. I’ve worked at various tech companies and Asia is cheaper to manufacture. Try that distance.

    • siquijorisland

      have a problem with truth sounds like a troll to me.

      • Progressive Republican

        Well, now that you’ve admitted it there may be a glimmer of hope for you.

  • http://eaglesforamerica.com jeffbwillis

    It’s likely that the majority of Americans agree with you! Still, the state has some of the nation’s most beautiful scenery and the mildest climate. But, it is also one of the most expensive places to live! The point is, “would it be more practical to settle these career welfare recipients in less costly places to live?”

  • Racer86y

    You know Texas ranks no. !?Because of all the illegals that pour into a once thriving state Mr.Progressive Republican

    • bluejacket472

      They also pour into California, with all of their relatives.
      Try again.

      • Racer86y

        And look at whats happening to Cali,they are like termites just eating it up

        • bluejacket472

          Never heard it put quite that way, LOL.

    • Eduardo

      Wrong. Texas ranks no 1 because the liberal democrat politicians are not taxing businesses and individuals and driving them out of California to more business friendly and less taxing environments Mr. Liberal Democrat

  • b

    Hey, they could always move to Minnesota where the air is clean and there aren’t that many guns and murders and the people are “Minnesota nice” and then there’s the weather and and and…… oh yeah did I tellya their is 10,000 lakes and taxes…..oops…

  • Lee

    Illegals…. What an ugly word. If anyone REALLY knows anything about our country they will realize that the People “invading” the USA actually had much of their country stolen from them. How can we assume an air of “you should stay in your country” when we crossed THEIR borders. Stole THEIR homes and property. KILLED them in a glorious expansion we called manifest destiny. Do your homework people.

    • Indep

      Lee – NOT TRUE! Quit listening to La Raza. They have convinced to many followers that Americans need to go back to Europe. Where do you think Mexicans came from? Why do they speak Spanish? Here is a little history lesson for you:

      Mexico fought for and won independence from Spain (1810–1821).

      In 1824, Mexico adopted a new constitution which defined borders including annexing the former province of Spanish Texas.

      On April 6, 1830. Mexico passed several new laws including measures banning further immigration into Texas from the United States.

      In 1835 – 1836 the people of Texas fought for and won independence from Mexico. Remember the Alamo? (just like Mexico did with Spain)

      In 1845, Texas joins the United States. which sparked the Mexican American war since Mexico never recognized Texas independence.

      Under the direction of President James K. Polk (D) combat operations lasted a year and a half, from the spring of 1846 to the fall of 1847. American forces quickly occupied New Mexico, California, and many parts of Mexico including Mexico City.

      The treaty ending the war included Mexico cession of the territories of Alta California, New Mexico and Mexico accepted the loss of Texas and thereafter cited the Rio Grande as its national border. The United States agreed to pay Mexico $15 million for these territories and assumed a $3.25 million debt Mexico owed citizens in these territories.

      People of Mexican decent were allowed to remain in these territories and become US citizens, or they could move to Mexico.

      Do your homework Lee!

      • moparfan54

        Thank you for saving me a lot of typing, my 4th Great Grandfather died at the Alamo, and it is good to know some of us know the history.

      • Bill_S

        More information can be found reading the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo.

    • Dissenter13a

      We have. Most of the illegals come from the South; this was never their home to begin with. It would be like saying that all Greeks had an absolute right to live in Sweden.

    • lakehead2

      Wrong, we did not steal much of their country. They started a war….we finished it and we paid $ for the land that we won to the Mexican government.

  • relayman

    I didn’t see in the article what I consider the main reason for Texas’ economic strength. TEXAS HAS NO (marxist) STATE INCOME TAX!

  • PWe72

    Unless I am badly mistaken California tax laws direct their assessors to go after every asset belonging to any entity based in California no matter the location of those assets.
    Their property assessors aren’t just any “Joe Bloe” but are attorneys and CPA’s with a blood thirst for tax revenue.

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